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SCO NDA Online at LinuxJournal

shadowbearer writes "The full text of the SCO NDA is available here at LinuxJournal. IANAL, but my reading of it makes me understand all the industry "No way!" style comments. Here's a snippet:
"Dan Ravicher, an attorney who specializes in free software and open-source issues at the firm of Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, said in an interview there are three key problems with the NDA. First, Ravicher said, "SCO can pick and choose among all its evidence" to show only the parts that back up the company's claims. "They're agreeing to let you see the half of the picture that they want you to see", he added.""

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  1. More dirty SCO tricks by dtolton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is interesting to note that if what Ravichner is saying "the
    NDA does not exclude information that the recipient obtained in
    ways other than from SCO" is true, then signing the NDA could
    prevent you from disclosing any information about SCO code even
    if the court rules that SCO's distribution of the code (with
    Linux) made it public.

    So you could in theory be binding yourself to confidentiality
    with regards to SCO's code even if (when?) the ruling goes
    against SCO!!

    As SCO has said, binding legal agreements are far more
    compelling in a court of law than copyrights. I wouldn't touch
    that agreement with a ten foot pole.

    Unfortunately, as we knew it would be all along, this is just
    another ploy by SCO. They won't give you full access to the
    code, you can't talk about the specifics, they can bind you from
    disclosing already public information, and to top it all off,
    they can make you come to Utah to defend yourself in court.

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  2. Cringely by LMCBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bob has some interesting thoughts this week. The column is about how, IF there is UnixWare or OpenUnix code in Linux, it was most likely Caldera itself that put it there, not IBM. This isn't a new idea, but he provides quotes from Ransom Love at the time which sound pretty damning.

    SCO/Caldera's motto at the time was "Unifying Unix with Linux for Business". To the extent that wasn't just hype, how can they blame anyone but themselves for migrating their UNIX code into Linux?

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  3. Re:SCO's Position: Sign it or Don't See the Goods. by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Seeing part of the picture is better than none of the picture.</quote>

    Really? I'm of the opinion (and I think most reasonable people would agree) that if someone wants to pick and choose what they show, htey have something to hide.

    So, what are they hiding?

    It's pretty obvious - the fact that they don't have a case. After all, the the code is in fact already in open-source software, it's already public.

    I certainly wouldn't want to look at their piece-of-shit code, just like I wouldn't want to look at anything coming from the Beast of Redmond - to avoid future charges of infringement/theft/copying.

    End result: Anyone stupid enough to go along with this qualifies for the darwin awards. They've certainly removed themselves effectively from the pool of OSS developers.

  4. Re:Beware of unilateral contracts by AlecC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What could the counterparty to SCO possibly gain by agreeing to this?

    Money. The counterparty would presumable be being employed as an Expert Witness in the lawsuit. Fees for such witnesses are normally very lucrative. >$1000/day plus expenses for the research phase (reading the code) and more for attendance in court are the figures I have heard.

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  5. Counter suits by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I downloaded the Linux source from SCO just yesterday at ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Serv er/CSSA-2003-020.0/SRPMS (their server did not respond a minute ago when I checked to see if it was still there). Wouldn't the fact that they are strongly implying that it is not OK for others to distribute Linux in it current form make their distribution illegal since they lose their right to distribute it when attempting to add conditions to the GPL?

    Could somebody who has contributed to the Linux kernel explicitly revoke SCO's license to redistribute it and then counter-sue to get them to stop? It would seem that SCO has lost their right to distribute the kernel by attempting to add restrictions on top of the GPL (which the GPL forbids) and that as a result somebody who owns part of the kernel could enforce a revokation of their ability to use the GPL'ed code. Wouldn't it be great if all the kernel contributors did this at once? SCO would quickly be drowning in countersuits. (Maybe we could even see the headline In Soviet Russia, Linus sues SCO!)

    Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know how realistic of an approach this would be.

  6. Re:Be nice you guys.. by cshark · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah. I was reading an article at news.com.com where mcbride was saying how they haven't finished assessing the scope of their case yet. Which seems odd to me bacuase companies usually know what the scope of your complaint is before your go around suing people. I mean, otherwise, how do you know what you're complaining about?

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