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Researchers Looking at Alternatives to Palladium

An anonymous reader writes "Some folks at Stanford have been looking at an alternative architecture for doing trusted computing (ala Palladium) based on using Virtual Machines. They presented a brief paper describing their work a couple weeks ago at the USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Operating Systems . In their paper they also discuss a bunch of non-DRM applications of Trusted Computing such as distributed firewalls, improving P2P security, preventing DDOS, and even strengthening civil liberty protections."

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  1. DRM is not automatically bad! by Thinkit3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One good example is the google puzzle contest I'm sure many tried. You downloaded the .pdf before, and got a password when the time started. While nobody should go to jail for cracking the password, it was an example of a good (not evil) use of DRM.

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  2. Vulgar Slang by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    palÂlaÂdiÂum2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-ld-m)

    1) A safeguard, especially one viewed as a guarantee of the integrity of social institutions: the Bill of Rights, palladium of American civil liberties.

    2) A sacred object that was believed to have the power to preserve a city or state possessing it.

    I believe that city is called Microsoft.
    "Bill of Rights"... whaaaahahaha.
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    At any rate, I have only one more word to say about Palladium. You can read all about that word here

  3. Faking out Palladium? by Asprin · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Moreso, would it be possible to fake out Palladium-dependent software by running it in an emulator that simulates the undelying Palladium subsystem?

    What does a program REALLY KNOW about where it lives?

    Wow, This is JUST like "The Matrix".

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  4. Viva la Alternatives by curtlewis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With all the security patches MS has each week, I must admit I found it rather amusing that they were propsing a secure computing standard with Paladium.

    Personally, I don't think they can pull it off. But with Stanford looking into an alternative now, this means we'll at least have choices down the line. And I'm sure that both sides will look at what each other does and rip off the good ideas.

    Security is important and a verifiable identity is as well. Not just for e-commerce applications, either. Even such simple issues as banning some nimrod that wants to post stupidity on your board can be solved by a solid identity model.

    Hopefully, one of em will pull it off.

  5. Re:There's nobody stoping... by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 3, Interesting
    DRM lets you send stuff to people you don't trust, because you trust that the software will prevent the people you do not trust from taking actions you wish to prevent.

    Well ya, you're right, but in the case it's be used, we are the people the RIAA, MPAA and everyone else doesn't trust. We, being anyone with any form of access to a computer.

    So the question (or just one of the main) is, Why should I invest in a platform that will keep me from copying/burning/reading/deleting/modifing/anything else you could possible ever want to do you data? Do I want to plainly accept the fact that people selling me content dont trust me to get out the Wal-mart parking lot without trying to steal their intellectual property?

    Digital Rights Management is nothing of the kind. In all honesty, it is Digital Rights Prevention.

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  6. You forgot a BIG part of computer history by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Computers started out simplistic, under the user's complete control..."

    No, they started out controlled by men in white coats in clean rooms.

    The microcomputer and PC revolution changed all this.

    The regressive trend back to "Master Control" started with Scott McNelly of Sun Microsystems. I remember when he first laid out his grand vision of returning everything to central control via the Internet. Java was part of this. Microsoft copied the rhetoric, announcing a time when your Word app and even your Word docs would all be on Microsoft's central servers.

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  7. One posible alternative is ... by bigjocker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... not to use any DRM at all ...

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  8. Re:There's nobody stoping... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, I want to talk about the RIAA and MPAA. Specifically the MPAA.

    I saw an ad for a DVD that said "Own [some movie] today on DVD". It did not say, "License [some movie]".

    Therefore, they are selling me a copy of that movie. By the doctrine of First Sale, it is mine to do with as I wish, including cracking the CSS or region coding, folding, spindling, or mutilating, reselling to someone else.

    The only thing that I may not do is reproduce it for other people, since I don't hold the copyright.

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