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Walmart to Push RFID

bravehamster writes "According to this article over at MSNBC, Walmart is going to push its suppliers to start using RFID to track inventory by 2005. The article goes on to mention how it was Walmart who helped jumpstart widespread adoption of barcodes. The report also points out some of the barriers in the way of RFID acceptance, but never once mentions consumer privacy concerns. Guess that kind of stuff just isn't important anymore."

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  1. Re:the biggest concerns by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't see why this should be so difficult. I mean, they do it today with a big magnet for shoplifting purposes, why can't you make an RFID tag that deactivates when placed over a big magnetic field? This way there's no need to worry about privacy and Walmart gets a way to save money by using technology that already exists in all their stores anyway.

  2. 2 questions... by heretic108 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Two questions regarding RFIDs:
    1. Once you take a product home, what's the cheapest and most convenient way of detecting an RFID tag? Is there any consumer-level equipment available to help with this without complication?
    2. Once a consumer discovers an RFID tag, is there an easy and convenient way for this tag be destroyed without damaging the product in any way?

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  3. New way to advertise by Visoblast · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Before someone walks past an advertisement display, the display reads the RFID tags the person is carying, figures out things & brands the person might be interested in, and displays a targeted ad.

    Mark this post. With RFID tags, this will happen. Just not right away, admittedly.

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  4. Re:Recent conversation by Daikiki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey, no basing my imaginations, pops ;)

    Maybe I'm not paranoid enough. High tech crooks cruising a neighbourhood with souped up RFID sensors, scoping out homes to rob. Now there's a thought. The ultimate target is a home that reads plenty of consumer electronics and jewelry tags, but no toothbrushes or combs. Guess they're on vacation. In fact, I like the idea so much that I'd like to be the first to coin the phrase waRFIDing to describe it.

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  5. Re:the biggest concerns by dnoyeb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why? These are IDs. I do not see what information they contain that you would be concerned about. they are not recording devices. I do not see any additional privacy concerns beyond what we have with store "savings/check cashing" cards and barcodes already.

    I don't recall anyone with a cadilliac or other high end luxury car, or other passive anti theft car with the RFID tag in the key, concerned about privacy.

    I don't recall any dolphins or sharks complaining about the RFID tag on their fins.

    I'll complain when they try and tag my children at birth...

  6. Re:the biggest concerns by marvin826 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey, I'm just wondering how long it will take someone to walk through a mall during a big holiday like christmas and scan people's cars for loot. I'm not worried about people tracking me, but nothing like putting a transmitter in a car or even a house (what is the range on these things anyway??) that says "I'm an Xbox in here -- come get me!!" I'm not paranoid, but it was just a thought...of course, Faraday might help the car situation -- unless it is a plastic car:)

  7. Detection from afar by presearch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Two things bugging me about these posts.

    About drive-by scanning: I believe that you need an antenna that's the
    square of the distance to read a tag. That's why there's a little plate reader
    or handheld at the checkout and those walkthrus at the door are huge.
    To read it from 5 feet, you need 25 sq feet of antenna.

    The other thing is that the tag itself won't be zapped or deactivated.
    Each will hold a key that IDs the product (all 10oz cans of peaches from
    DelMonte will have that same key, like a barcode, probably that same UPC
    number) and it will also have a key that's unique to the tag itself.
    It won't be zapped, it will just change the status record of that item from
    "stocked" to "sold" (or "missing from inventory but not sold").
    Shoplift a sweater, and even if you get it out of the store, if you wear it
    to the store a year later, you could get pinged.

    As much as I hate the idea, you can't blame them for implementing it.
    It opens up a huge world of possibilities and won't cost them that much.

    With Wal-Mart's clout, it will be up to the vendor to eat the cost of the tag,
    WM just has to implement the system and specs the tag. No doubt the tag
    supplier will be a WM subsidiary.

    Don't want to put in the tag in your product Mr. Vendor?
    Sorry, we'll find someone else that will.

  8. Re:the biggest concerns by Omestes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Privacy concern: If their not deactivated, your basically wearing a consumer profile where ever you go. Lets say these things catch on everywhere, and become a standard like UPC codes, you walk into Target, or Walmart, or Circle Jerk, door sensor notices that you respond to a ping. Customer #204013 is wearing a Lands End sweater, a pair of JNCOs, a Cubs hat, Fruit of the Loom undies, a Swatch, Nikes, and a Victorias Secret brassier, customer #204013 buys a Jolk and a pack of Camels, and some pr0n. *POOF* A new database entry is born.

    Now imagine that each one of these RFIDs has a unique number, and somewhere along the line you become attached to one of these tags, now all of your purchasing history is associated with YOU, and not an aggregate. And the wonderful thing is, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. To most people this is no problem, to me, it is. I try my damndest to stay out of all forms of database, with mixed results, and with these tags, I CAN'T. My purchasing history will follow me.

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