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Bruce Sterling On Total Information Awareness

securitas writes "Declan McCullagh interviews Bruce Sterling about Total Information Awareness (renamed Terrorist Information Awareness and raising concerns) or 'Poindexter's nutty scheme' as Sterling thinks of it. He predicts TIA will destabilize the government and lead to internal KGB-style coups. Whether you agree with him or not it makes for thought-provoking reading."

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  1. more guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This would be easily solved if everyone had more guns.

  2. Psychological Study of Jewish Children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    RAMALLA, 8 June 2003 â" A letter from a Jewish child to a Palestinian child, said, âoeI hope you and your family will burn in hell.â These ugly expressions and desires come from an Israeli child who took part in a research study. The study was conducted by an Israeli researcher and translated into Arabic. The study was presented to a teaching committee at the London School of Economics (LSE). The researcher is a former soldier and a member of the anti-terrorist unit in the Israeli army. He studied psychology at the LSE.

    The study involved more than eighty Israeli children and it indicates that the current generation is passing a Zionist legacy to the next generation. Zionism is being passed to the younger generation â" even more than knowledge of the Torah. The parents of this generation know how to plant hate and anger toward Arabs in childrenâ(TM)s minds to such an extent that children are happy to hear of the death of Palestinian child or to hear news of a Palestinian officialâ(TM)s being assassinated. The researcher observed the problem and has searched for results and reasons. The reason he conducted the study was because of a contradiction in Israeli policy. In August 2000, Ehud Barak promised to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and in August 2001, Sharon was talking about the assassination policy.

    The researcher talked to eighty-four children after the suicide bombing in the nightclub. The result shows the hate Israeli children harbor towards Palestinians has reached a high point. Children under the age of eight have pictures in their minds of Palestinian children as blind and with no teeth. They wish that those children would suffer from Aids and burn in hell. Israeli children admitted to these feelings. What is even stranger is that they used very strong language, which cannot be published here.

    The researcher asked each child to write a letter to a Palestinian. He also asked them to draw a picture of a Palestinian child. The results were amazing because of the quantity of hate these children under the age of eight manifest. There is a mixture of fear and anger in these children. To begin with, the children asked two questions. The first was whether to write the letter to a good or bad Palestinian and the second was if they could curse in the letter.

    These are excerpts from some of the letters written by Israeli children to their Palestinian counterparts. A girl wrote, âoeI wish that you would die and be sick. I am looking forward for the day of your death.â Another child wrote, âoeI do not like what you are doing to us and I hope you die.â Another child wrote, âoeTo disgusting Muhammad, I want you to die. I want you to live a bad life. I do not like you. I hate you because you are terrorists. I hope you burn in hell.â Another child wrote, âoeTo ugly Yassir, do you think you will win? I think you are very wrong. Here is some advice for you â" take a knife and stick it in your fatherâ(TM)s and motherâ(TM)s hearts and then blow yourself up.â Another child wrote, âoeGreetings to a girl who lives with bad people. I want you to tell your father to stop attacking us and for peace to prevail. I hope you will grow old quickly and die fast.â Another one wrote, âoeI hope you are sick and will die quickly.â

    An Israeli child drew a cartoon of a Palestinian child watching a suicide bomber on TV and saying as he laughed, âoeThis is exciting. Many people are killed.â Another child wrote, âoeTo me, you are nothing. You are stupid and dissolute. We are going to blow you up until you all die. You are happy because you blow us up and kill us. Wait until we blow you up.â Another child wrote, âoeI know it is difficult to live without a home. I do not like your people fighting my people. We want to live in peace.â Another child wrote, âoeI want to say you are a piece of garbage. I hope you die, amen. That is all what I wanted to say.â Another child

  3. Read the constitution for your answer by nurb432 · · Score: 1, Troll

    A militia is constituted of *private citizens*, so *I* am part of the militia, as defined and intended by the founders of this country. It is the rights of the individual that the constitution is deigned to protect, not the 'professional military' or the 'government' in general. So yes, I do understand the *entire* amendment, and am curious of your point.

    Related to your first comment, isn't that what I said.. that we re heading to the arena of socialism?

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    1. Re:Read the constitution for your answer by ceejayoz · · Score: -1, Troll

      By "pretty bad indicators" I meant "they show exactly the opposite" - certainly wasn't agreeing with you.

      As for the Second Amendment, it is contingent on the need for a private militia to defend the nation. At the time, militias were necessary. Now, with the strongest military in the world, militias are no longer necessary - thus, the right to bear arms is no longer Constitutionally guaranteed.

    2. Re:Read the constitution for your answer by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 0, Troll

      I'm not worried about the counterexamples(which are poor because you don't think about fear. Iraq and Afghanistan had people ready to be controlled with fear. American's do not fear our government, as the people of other nations have had cause to fear their governments).

      I was just thinking about what you and Hitler have in common. You should read more about him, I bet we have just scratched the surface!

  4. butt sexx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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    yo who knows f slashdot

  5. *sigh* Taking the flame bait.... by RLiegh · · Score: 0, Troll

    To all appearences, you're full of shit, and probably trolling.

    A socialist country has state health care, our health care system is generally regarded as being the worst in the western world, mostly due to the LACK of government intervention and funding.

    Ditto for education, wich the neoconservatives are trying to eradacate as fast as they can.

    So, what are traits of a socialist country is it you beleive that we have? Point by point, if you would, starting with a CLEAR definition of what you consider socialist.

    If you can think that much for yourself, that is [unless G Gordon Liddy is due to come on, in which case I can understand that you would bail out of the conversation].

    Thank you for your time and prompt consideration of this matter.

  6. Re:Expanding on that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Dude, you're a fucking moron. Iraq deserved what they got, a despot is out of the picture, and that's that.

  7. Re:relieving by Malcontent · · Score: 0, Troll

    The paralells are spooky. There is no denying that. Hell we even have concentration camps set up for muslims.

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  8. Re:Well by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 0, Troll

    Its an irrelevant point in debate camp or a court of law. Its irrelevant if you're a Republican worshipping fascist who believes its okay to subvert the US Constitution if a Republican administration deems the action to be in the Nation's (i.e. its) best interest.

    Sammy "the Bull" Gravano is a murderer. That fact that he isn't a "convicted" murderer doesn't change that fact. The fact that Poindexter deliberately lied under oath to cover up Irangate means he's guilty of treason. That he wasn't "convicted" of it doesn't change that fact either.

    Its this miserable spindoctor dissembling by Conservative scum that allow crap like the Patriot Act to become law and invasions of countries over WMD that never existed. (Its also the fault of people who don't call them out on it.)

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  9. Re:relieving by kcbrown · · Score: 2, Troll
    Look, as much as I think the Bush administration is a threat to civil liberties and is terrible in all sorts of other ways, to compare them generally to Nazis is an insult to all the sacrifices billions of people made in the war that destroyed German fascism. We may not have a perfect (or even good) government, but to suggest it's a goverment that will make genocide a household word or start a war that will leave upwards of 50 million people dead is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

    In 1933, or even 1937 (4 years after the Nazis gained power, which is roughly the same amount of time that the Bush administration has been in office), few people thought that Germany would start a war that would engulf the world, and nobody thought that it would be the nation to make genocide a household word. So I wouldn't be comforted by the fact that the same is true of the U.S. at the moment, if I were you.

    The U.S. has already invaded and conquered its first country under the Bush administration, and it's unclear at this point how long it will be before it does so again. But I, for one, have little reason to believe that Iraq will be the only one that undergoes a "regime change" at the hands of the Bush administration before all is said and done. I don't think we'll see World War III, but that's only because the situation is different: in WW2, Germany was a militarily powerful nation but it wasn't the most powerful by any means -- and it still came reasonably close to winning. Today, the U.S. is the most militarily powerful nation on the planet and everyone knows it. I don't think WW3 will happen because I don't think anyone is stupid enough to go up against the U.S. that way.

    Even so, the slide towards fascism in the U.S. is very apparent to me, and the biggest thing I haven't figured out is how Bush will remain in power beyond his allowed two terms. I'm quite certain that he will try, I just don't yet have an idea of what he's likely to do to make it happen. But I have a strong suspicion that it will involve something like declaring a national state of emergency.

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