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Ximian Desktop 2, Evolution Released
An anonymous reader writes "Ximian has released their long awaited Ximian Desktop 2, their popular Gnome-based desktop, and Evolution, their popular email client and calendar program. They can be found on the main Ftp server. You can also check their mirrors."
Use the mirrors, its downloading fine for me.
take off the ftp:// and the path and just give it the server when it lets you choose to use a different server in the installer.
Altp.
I expect it's just an oversight, but as yet there are no source tarballs on either ftp.ximian.com or ftp.gnome.org (well, my local f.g.o mirror, can't get to the real thing at the mo...)
Listening for the sound of the coming rain...
You won't. Ximian are dropping support for Debian.
Though they will release the source so someone may decide to compile it and package it unofficially.
Posted anonymously on purpose.
PLEASE USE MIRRORS!!!
1. Open a terminal window.
2. Using the su command, become superuser (root).
3. Type the following command or cut and paste it into your terminal:
wget -q -O - http://go.ximian.com |sh
Now there is good advise: Be brave, pipe the contents from an url posted on slashdot by Anonymous Coward directly to /bin/sh!
Are you kidding?!
There is an evolution package which is one of many maintained by Takuo KITAME.
The Ximian/GNOME team are really not heading in the right direction, when it comes to desktop design, and they have pretty much made sure that the design decisions that went into XD2 will scare off any serious systems manager
or at the very least, give them the same amount of lock-in and dependency that Ms offers them today.
I think you're nick is well chosen. You're smoking some serious crack. I suspect this might be a well crafted troll. But whatever.
The Ximian Connector you so highly tout only delivers value to Ximian, not to the end user
In that case, why do people buy it?
I can easily connect and collaborate with Exchange servers, in a variety of ways, including a fat-client, if I would wish to do so -- without having to use Evolution, *or* suffer a major loss of functionality.
Again. You don't support this assertion.
Moreover, any application that requires a 3k killscript
Years after CORBA is dumped in just about any enterprise as an archaic, slow-moving and basically retarded piece of middleware
You are ignorant. CORBA is used in many back office applications, especially powering high end e-commerce sites. DCOM, which is similar to CORBA except less standard and poorly specified, is deployed throughout the Win32 platform, and people all over the world use it every day (via installshield no less).
those config options that are available are tucked away in a "registry" type, binary databse
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you are a troll. GConf is not binary based. Oh, and by the way, simplification of the UI has ranked very highly amongst "things we need" for IT managers to deploy Linux on the desktop.
they even set OpenOffice.org to save by default in MS formats!! how fscked up is that?!?
Corp rollouts would only do it themselves anyway. Or do you really want Mary in marketing ringing up every other day asking why her friend can't open the report she just sent?
I am now a happy KDE user, most of the time. And no, this is not a troll, or anything like that. It is honest opinion.
No, it's a troll. It's made up purely of unsubstaniated opinion with no basis in reality whatsoever, put forth in a flamebait style. It reads like you're trolling for hits. So here you are. Hope you enjoy it.
My credentials are that I was the linux expert on the deskside support team that supports Cisco Systems. When Cisco decided to go with Exchange for internal reasons we started looking for a good linux solution. We needed to support not just email, but calandering as well because all calandering was thankfully being moved off of their previous "solution" (it sucked equally on all platforms). We could not use POP3 for email because it broke the model of some of the backend software that was being grafted around Exchange so it was either IMAP or MAPI, and when you add in the need for calendering support the only viable solution was Ximian connector+Evolution. Setting the default save option to MS formats makes sense in a mixed environment because then the user does not have to think about resaving the document before sending it to a collegue. Btw, this was for a couple thousand seats of linux desktops in a mixed Solaris/Win2k/RH environment.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
All my family use Gnome and Evolution at home (though to be honest I often find myself using Fastmail's web interface for email) on Redhat 9. After using it for some months now I can't think of anything about it that annoys me off the top of my head. In fact, I find it a pleasure to use.
The Mozilla supplied with RH9 is good enough for my purposes so I no longer feel the need to track every point release.
Find the Woody backport for gnome 2.2 on apt-get.org.
You're going to need the XFree backport with it, since the X in Woody doesn't support the goodies that gnome2.2 needs.
This is probably why Ximian won't support woody, they'd have to not only do gnome, but X along with it.
Debian is *not* being dropped. It's simply not supported *yet*.
Ximian makes most it's money off of RedHat and SuSE so it's obvious they'll want to support those first. Once they get money from these distributions, they'll support other distributions. They used the same approach with the 1.x distribution. Read the "download page" if you want confirmation of this.
See This mail on the debian gtk/gnome mailing lists.
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:55, Mark Gordon <mtgordon@ximian.com> wrote:
> There are no plans for an XD2 release for Woody.
>
> -Mark Gordon
Some people are starting to work on an unofficial woody port. Unstable already contains gnome 2.2 and most interesting ximian patches will probably be applied.
Here's some more mirrors I found:
c om/ e du/mirrors/rsync.ximian.com/
http://ximian.dulug.duke.edu/pub/ximian/
http://ftp.dc.aleron.net/ximian/
http://ximian.oregonstate.edu/
http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/rsync.ximian.
http://0-open-systems.ufl.edu.library.csuhayward.