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Ogg Theora Alpha 2 Released

An anonymouse reader writes "After almost seven months, another alpha release of Ogg Theora is finally out. Still not production ready, but it's certainly showing some progress." The world needs a free video codec. Looking forward to seeing where this one goes.

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  1. Part of a live ISO PVR? by timothy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that the video codec is the only important part of this, but the fact that unlike most, Ogg Theora is completely free of patent / royalty issues.

    Imagine (it's not a great stretch anymore, though it might have been a few years ago) being able to assemble a box with a hard drive, motherboard, memory, then popping in a CD ala Knoppix or Gentoo Live, and BOOM there's a DVR. Movix is one side of the instant multi-media computer, but does not offer capture / record functions.

    Built-to-purpose, such a computer ought to have a TV-out (and the live ISO would have to support it ;) -- including well-designed menus like the ones for freevo and mythTV, suitable for low-res TV screens -- so it could be used without a conventional monitor attached).

    timothy

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  2. World needs it, but will they use it? by Strike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The world needed a free audio codec but ogg vorbis is still a fairly niche market in the compressed audio field these days. I use it and love it but I am still in the vast minority. I would use (and love) a free video codec from the Xiph people as well, but that doesn't mean that other people will. It's that damn market momentum holding good things back, but such is the plight of a lot of good technologies it seems.

  3. Re:XviD? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What about XviD?

    Because XviD, as an MPEG-4 implementation, uses patented algorithms. It doesn't matter how free the code is if you need a license to be allowed to compile and run it.

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  4. Re:Not a troll by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If patent encumbered tech becomes standard, electronics become more expensive. If patent-issue-free tech becomes standard, electronics become cheaper.

    If patent-issue-free tech becomes standard, legally distributing media can become absolutely free.

    If patents are too expensive, some cool tech just never comes to light.

    Besides all this, which people like paying more for their electronics, movies and music?

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  5. Re:OGG by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not great if you want to use on a portable device, where battery life is a concern.

    Meh, this is becoming less and less of a concern. Your average PDA has a pretty damn powerful processor in it these days, while still having decent battery life. Heck, even cell-phones these days are pretty powerful. Enough so that decoding Vorbis shouldn't be a huge issue. And this ignores the possibility of hardware decoders, which make this whole point moot. Of course, a good question here is, how suitable is Vorbis for implementation in hardware?

  6. Likely space savings by benwaggoner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, Theora isn't done yet, nor is its bitstream locked down, so it's impossible to say how small files will get.

    By the time it is GM, I imagine MPEG-4 will be well along in its migration to the new AVC codec, which offers much better compression efficiency than the current Simple and Advanced Simple profiles used by Divx, Xvid, etcetera. So even though the final Theora might be somewhat better than MPEG-4 today, it almost certainly will be behind MPEG-4 by the time it is released.

    Bear in mind that MP3 is ten years old now. Modern audio codecs like HE AAC are definitely better than Vorbis, technically.

    If Theora gets market share, it'll be because of its openness, not because of any price or quality advantages. Windows Media 9 is free-as-in-beer for most uses, and is today a lot better than Theora could possibly be in a year.