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Red Hat License Challenged

An anonymous reader writes: "David McNett has noticed an apparent discrepancy between the Red Hat Linux EULA and the GPL. He has written an open letter to the FSF asking for their opinion on the matter. Does Red Hat have the right to "audit your facilities and records" to ensure compliance with their license?" McNett misreads the Red Hat documents. Their contract is for the various services, not the software, and for the services they are entitled to demand whatever concessions they think the market will bear.

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  1. Okay when "we" do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... they are entitled to demand whatever concessions they think the market will bear.

    Gee, when Microsoft (and other "bad" companies) does that kind of thing, everyone here gets upset. I wonder why that is.

  2. Re:I love /. by Jim+Hall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You immediately got modded down (was "1, Offtopic" when I looked at it, now "-1, Offtopic" when I clicked "Reply"). I probably will be too, but I wanted to say I agree with you.

    What is it with the editors? They posted an article like "here's some news, but don't bother reading it because the guy is wrong". Come on, guys!

  3. Redhat have defended this before. by iainl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with Services contracts for Linux boxes is that you're allowed to install as many machines as you want (obviously - its GPL software). When clients only take out a service contract for some of their machines, then they have to have a certain amount of cover in their contracts to deal with the fact that you can pretty much guarantee that, out of the 5 servers you have, its always the one with the Service Contract that has the problem.

    Creative server registering of this type has been catching them out for a while, so they are trying to minimise it with that change.

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  4. Scary Headline but no meat by haydenth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first when I read this headline, it scared me, especially with all the SCO stuff going on, its getting harder for me to explain to my bosses how the Linux licensing works and what is going on.

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  5. Re:Why was this even posted? by skroz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once again, Slashdot shows us it has no filters. "News to Noone. Stuff that falters."

    If this is your opinion, why are you reading? Why are you posting? You're acting like the religious nuts that listen to Howard Stern all day just so they can find something to complain about. If you don't like it, change the fucking channel.
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  6. Its the monopoly, stupid by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    RedHat doesnt have anywhere close to a monopoly on any market that it produces products for.

    Microsoft has monopolies (ones that have been found guilt of illegally maintaining, even) in several markets.

  7. Re:What? by Zapman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    End why is it that all the legal stuf seems to have become so important in the Open-Source/Unix® world.

    {sigh} You obviously havn't been around the Unix wolrd for very long. The unix world has been beset by hideous legal issues since at least the early 80s:

    Just who owns the unix trademark? I can think of at least 5 different owners.

    The BSD 4.4 -> BSD Lite stupidity that stopped the *BSD's cold for at least a year (without that, it's quite possible that /. would be a BSD focused forum)

    IIRC, there were several Xwindows legal challenges, OpenWin never came to fruition, etc, etc, etc

    and those are just the ones I can think of on a couple hours of sleep.

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  8. Re:Well... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The news is somebody worrying about the redhat EULA and taking their interpretation to FSF for an opinion. The comment by michael is just that - a comment, not a retraction or whatever.

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  9. Editors...say it with me...EDITORS...Very good! by somethingwicked · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's wrong with saying-

    "Okay, here's a story that you will prob see all over your favorite Free Software Slanted News Sites today. Here's what's wrong with it..."

    The title says it all really: They are EDITORS. Not gatekeepers that post stories only, they have a staggering ability to actually add there own text. *yawn*

    I see them taken to task often (and rightfully so) for posting dupes, unchecked links, etc...and they deserve the hassles on that stuff

    Don't agree with his editorializing? Cool thing about /. is your can post your own reply AND other people actually READ them! Try that at your favorite newspaper site

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  10. Re:That's weird... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Um, no. It's all about the service contract, not the software. If you aren't compliant, then your service sontract with redhat is invalid. You can happily continue to use the software all you want, but you're not entitled to their corporate support anymore.

    As GPL does not say anything about service and support, there is no conflict whatsoever.

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  11. Re:Similar but not the same by petecarlson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is exactly what it is. If you want support for ten servers then you have to buy support for ten servers. If they didn't license there support that way companies would buy one support contract and use it for all there servers. Don't want the support contract? Don't buy it. You can still install Red Hat on all your servers for free.

    Disclaimer. I own Red Hat stock