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Open Spectrum: Toward Ubiquitous Connectivity

obiwan2u writes "ACM's Queue magazine has a moderately dense article describing how new intelligent radios may free up under-utilized spectrum bandwidth, possibly providing solutions to the last mile bottleneck."

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  1. Last mile, what's it worth? by ObviousGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you live in the wilderness, is getting broadband really a priority?

    As it is, most residential areas have telephone coverage. As the internet gets more mature, the need for broadband lessens because of improvements in packet technology and of course data compression. What was possible 5 years ago on a 56K modem doesn't even compare to what you can do with the Internet today with even a lowly 28.8. The improvements are just so vast.

    So what's the big deal with broadband? So you get to view Slashdot 2 seconds faster. So you get to look at the daily news on MSNBC 2 seconds faster. So what? We are talking about lengths of time that don't even register on our awareness.

    Look, people who live far away from civilization chose that lifestyle. One big reason was to get away from all this technology crap. Let those hermits live in peace. Not everyone needs or wants the latest and greatest, sometimes they just need the simple and natural.

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    1. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Raindance · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's tough to think of meaningful applications for the Last Mile because it's not here yet; impliment it comprehensively and watch the machinery of capitalism work and think up thousands of applications for it. Of which a few will probably be meaningful.

      Also, I'm not sure that
      "As the internet gets more mature, the need for broadband lessens because of improvements in packet technology and of course data compression. What was possible 5 years ago on a 56K modem doesn't even compare to what you can do with the Internet today with even a lowly 28.8. The improvements are just so vast."
      Could you qualify this statement, as improvements in packet technology (IPv4 vs IPv6) have actually increased the likely overhead of packets, and though we've come a long way in sound/video compression, we've not made much progress in generic data compression (the majority of overall and residential packets, vs streaming audio/video) in the past 5 years AFAIK.

      If you build it, they will come. Improving compression ratios is at best evolutionary in change, not revolutionary as the Last Mile potentially is. And it is definitely that.

    2. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by rabiteman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      We are talking about lengths of time that don't even register on our awareness.

      Sir, I find it hard to believe that you've used dial-up internet access recently. Either that or you haven't used broadband recently, since you claim to notice no substantial difference between it and dialup. The length of time required to "register on our awareness" depends heavily on the circumstances surrounding it, and on how long we expect an activity to take. When it comes to pages loading, using broadband gives you the expectation that the activity of loading a page will take almost no time. When you use dialup and, suddenly, the time you're required to allot to page loading is much more than what you expected, you are all too painfully aware of the time differential.

      In my apartment, on my cable modem, mapquest takes a second or two to load. The last time I was at my parent's house, using 56k dialup, mapquest took over 20 seconds to load just the front page. Actually downloading directions somewhere took over a minute. Granted, under certain conditions, I don't notice the passage of a minute of time, but staring at a map that's being downloaded isn't one of those conditions.

      The culture shock of dialup is part of why I use the internet so little when I'm home... I'd rather have no access at all than slow access. ;)

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    3. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by etcshadow · · Score: 1

      Well, there are limits to the capability of compression, and the phone lines are, ultimately, just not as good as "broadband" last mile solutions.

      Also, there's more to life than searching the web. I, for one, do a lot of work from home, and although a cable modem is decent, it sure would be easier to work remotely with higher-speed, lower-latency connectivity. More people could run their own web/ftp/whatever servers out of their homes.

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    4. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Squarewav · · Score: 1

      about 7 years ago I was playing some real audio streems while downloading netscape 4 and chatting at the same time,on a 33.6 modem, about a year ago before (I got cable) on 56k I was lucky to download and chat at the same time and then I was getting download rates in the 28k range, so many people have internet now compared to 5 years ago that most of the dial-up isps cant handle it, when I got broadband it spoiled me so much downloading 700 meg files in hours insted of days. as time goes on and people relise that they could video chat and download programs at the same time the demand for broadband come to the point that people will refuse a 56k connection even in the middle of noware

    5. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by corsec67 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One word for you, and this is from a user on a *shared* 28.8 modem, "Flash"

      Compression might have gotten better, but the size of websites is incredible!!!

      Stupid web designers can overcome any technological gains, and easily. I have seen a website that used JAVA for OnMouseOver(), not JavaScript. Annoying bitch. Another great (bad) example is http://www.swatch.com/internettime Flash used with no way to navigate outside that flash.

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    6. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by El · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, broadband IS a priorty in rural areas. I own a property for which it costs over $10,000 to run a cable to the house. I assure you, wireless broadband would be not only faster, but cheaper. (The best I can do there now is ISDN)

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    7. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by wytcld · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you live in the wilderness, is getting broadband really a priority?

      Sure. I used to live in the wilderness of Brooklyn. Now I'm in a New England town of 3000. Had to find a place with a DSL connection as good as I had there. Managed to. I get the same 35ms pings to Manhattan I used to. If I could be even more rural and get those pings, I just might. I do remote administration for clients in Manhattan. Also have some servers here. This works as well as being in Brooklyn, the living costs are a hell of a lot cheaper, and the beauty ain't bad.

      Part of why the wild stuff isn't well enough defended is it's "far away from civilization." Put it inside civilization, and maybe we'll take better care of it. Having it inside, means having civilization's nervous system extend thoroughly through it. There's no reason for civilization to be limited to artificially dense puddles of muck, nor for it to have as its other option suburban sterility. The wilder our civilization gets, the greater its ecological subtlety, and the more impregnable in a multitude of dimensions to assault from one-dimensional fundamentalists, whether Islamic, Bush League, or the next misfortune on the world stage.

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    8. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by intermodal · · Score: 1

      not true. I live in a town of 1200 and we don't have even decent ISPs for the most part, much less fast download speeds (you try to download an ISO image or a new kernel source when you're on a 28.8 connection and tell me how you like it.) I know of a county capital a few counties over that most people are lucky to connect at 26, and get to pray it stays connected. Live out there for a bit and then you can say all you want. that was spoken like a true asshole.

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    9. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1
      What the hell are you talking about?

      If all you do is read /. on your dial up connection, then fine, you don't need broadband. The rest of us are chewing up 3+ gigs a day doing a hell of a lot more. I am;
      Running web servers, game servers, swapping files, downloading video from work, doing CVS checkouts, downloading ISOs, uploading ISOs, looking at porn, streaming audio, oh, and reading /. All while chatting on the phone. What's the big deal with broadband!? I'd sell my firstborn before going back.

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    10. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      LOL. Sorry, just thought it was funny:

      the phone lines are, ultimately, just not as good as "broadband"

      I have ADSL, which is over the phone line. "the phone lines are, ultimately, just not as good as the phone lines"

      I always thought that was weird. Modems are so slow because they have to use the crappy phone lines, but ADSL is fast because it uses the same crappy phone lines? Ok :)

    11. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Phishpin · · Score: 4, Informative

      I live in a similar situation. I live in rural southern Indiana and it would cost thousands of dollars to get a cable to my house. Everything except the phone and electric lines is wireless.

      I do have wireless broadband. Its from a local company (Ohio Valley Wireless cable). The service is called Speedex and it uses a Hybrid 3.5GHz microwave link. Its $50 a month for service that usually averages to about 95KB/s downstream and 16KB/s upstream. Its got a 30-35 mile radius from the tower, so the coverage is pretty darn good. To my knowledge, its been down only once in the year I've had it, and that was for 45 minutes. AT&T botched up their T lines.

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    12. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by SkewlD00d · · Score: 1

      Wrong again! There is a finite amount of entropy you can squeeze out of a given channel... again, most compression relies on finding patterns in data through heuristsics, and the laws of diminishing returns come into play. you can't always wring any more bits out of a stream, even if you had a 64K node beowulf cluster dedicated to your 56k modem. You dont seem to understand how bandwidth works... there's no way in hell your going to reencoded a 1.3 Gbps HDTV over IP stream in real-time over even a T-1 without some huge losses and immense CPU horsepower. A quality MPEG-2 DVD has an avg bit rate (ABR) of about 8 Mbps, now you're going to tell me you're going to get me that over a laggy-ass 28.8k modem? F-that. Check your path latency pal, you need a refresher on network fundamentals.

      Also, there's not much broadband "pentration" (deployment) because there's no killer app for it, and vice-versa, so it's stuck in a feedback-loop. There's plenty of fiber for the backbones, etc., (read "Dark Fiber") it's just that telco companies don't want to make capital investments on the edges and end-user side if there's no guarantee people will buy it. What is grandma going to do w/ a T-1? Setup a eDonkey2k server? I don't think so. People are turning away from TV, radio, broadcast, and print mediums, and toward the WWW, which doesn't need a huge-ass pipe (not yet). 99% of all the streaming video currently on internet sux ass because of bandwidth limitations (usually TCP or UDP). if multicast were truely deployed, there'd be a real chance of high-quality, live, streaming video sent in an efficient manner.

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    13. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by etcshadow · · Score: 4, Informative

      I always thought that was weird. Modems are so slow because they have to use the crappy phone lines, but ADSL is fast because it uses the same crappy phone lines? Ok

      ADSL doesn't use just any phone lines. I think that less than half of the houses in the US are wired with high enough quality lines to support DSL. Also, the drop-off of bandwidth as a function of distance from the phone company's substation is pretty rapid. If you live in even a fairly spread-out suburb, chances are you can get crap DSL at best, let alone semi-rural or full-blown rural areas. Oh, and when I say "phone lines" I don't just mean the twisted pair running into your wall (although the physical wire quality is part of it), I'm talking about the various switching hardware upstream, too. Do you think that Podunkville doesn't have DSL available yet just because the phone companies are jerks? No, it's because it's an expensive investment for them to upgrade their "lines" to provide DSL.

      So, no, ADSL doesn't use "the same crappy phone lines"... it uses different, not-as-crappy phone lines.

      Also I put "broadband" in quotes because it's not entirely a very well defined term. (Yes, I know that there have been a few things attempting to define the term in various places... even a lawsuit over the use of the term, but it's not settled yet.) You can call pretty much anything from 128k up "broadband", but its really not in the same ballpark as 512k or 1M (or possible higher, with various new technologies like 802.16 MAN).

      Besides, all that said, I consider your ADSL (via phone lines) slow because I have a cable modem. :-D

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    14. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by realdpk · · Score: 1

      Last mile's worth a lot. Look what it's got us so far with POTS:

      Voicemail/answering machines to pick up while we're out
      BBSs to chat with other folks
      Faxes to get documents sent to us very near "instantly"
      Internet access to do all of the above and more

      Replace a phone line with a dedicated Internet connection and the hermits are no worse off.

    15. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Also, the drop-off of bandwidth as a function of distance from the phone company's substation is pretty rapid.

      Frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It must suck to live in the US, that's all I can say.

      I live in a medium sized Canadian city, and ALL ADSL customers get 150k/s down, 50k/s up. Regardless of location. Oh yeah, and I've looked and looked and looked, but I can NOT find availability data on my ISP's website. I can only assume this to mean that ADSL is available to the entire city. I sure didn't have any trouble getting it here, in my oldish neighborhood.

      The phone lines are remarkably unreliable, too. When we had dialup, it routinely took 3 or 4 tries just to get a connection, and then it kept cutting out. We switched to ADSL, and BAM! everything was great. Fast, reliable, no troubles at all.

      Besides, all that said, I consider your ADSL (via phone lines) slow because I have a cable modem. :-D

      Funny you should bring that up, because the cable company here caps you at 9k/s up AND down. So my connection is considerably faster than cable.

    16. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Tailhook · · Score: 1

      "One big reason was to get away from all this technology crap."

      Heh. Hardly. I like my technology. It's the morons that usually congregate around it that bug me.

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    17. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      I know, after getting cable I deeply regreted the decision. I mean I didn't even notice that I downloaded 3 complete Redhat ISOs in 2 hours compared to the week it took with dialup (not including 2 disconnects that occured when I wasn't at home). And when I download 100 meg game demos on cable in a few minutes compared to the hours it took on dialup, I don't even notice. Oh and with online gaming, you can't even tell that your shots are going exactly where you want them to go, exactly when you want them to go instead of having a 1/4 second delay.

      If you really can't tell the difference between (good) broadband and 56K, there must be something very wrong with you. I get 400-500K/sec on most of my major downloads, that's a LOT faster than even the best dialup. When I did have dialup it was quite fast (for dialup), I would also have random sustained download speeds of 12K/sec (for about 10 minutes) which was a little weird but I didn't complain. And my lowest ping in a game was around 150 (although that's nothing compared to the 17 ping I had a few times with cable, in the same game.) Sharing one connection is also a good thing with broadband, I don't have to worry about getting disconnected and I have tons of bandwidth, so even if my sister is downloading a bunch of songs on kazaa, my ping in games doesn't suffer like it would from her just downloading one song with dialup.

      Also, I remember when I had dialup file sizes were a lot smaller (for full movies and warez which I don't download anymore since I have a job and can buy the stuff now.) I would get full movies that were from 200-400 megs in ASF format. Wasn't the nicest quality picture but you could still watch the movie just fine. And games were usually 40-80 megs with everything else ripped from it (music, movies) with the option to download it seperately. And last I checked, they're like 100-200 megs or you'd have to get an ISO.

      Lastly, as a person that has to fix a lot of computers (usually at that persons house) I can tell you from personal experience that broadband helps A LOT for that. I've had to spend hours fixing computers because there'd be a 20 meg file I need to download, or I'd have to go through a lot of bloated websites to find certain drivers. You should use broadband for a week and then go on a friend's dial up connection, you'll notice a HUGE difference.

    18. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, DSL is only an upgrade of the ISP's hardware. It still runs over j.random copper wire.

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    19. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, no, ADSL doesn't use "the same crappy phone lines"... it uses different, not-as-crappy phone lines.
      Sorry to say, you are misinformed. DSL signal runs on the exact same 'crappy' copper pair your 56k modem has been using for years.

      DSL is so fast because it uses a wide range of frequencies for bit traversal, achieved through the synchronization of your DSL modem and a DSLAM at the other end of the loop (usually the telco CO). There are, however, a few restrictions as to who can get DSL. Mainly these are loop-specific. DSL can only reach a certain distance from the CO and if there is any fiber on the line at all, consider yourself SOL.

      Besides, all that said, I consider your ADSL (via phone lines) slow because I have a cable modem. :-D
      Perhaps, my DSL syncs at 6Mbps down and 1Mbps up, is your cable comprable?

    20. Re:Last mile, what's it worth? by ferret70 · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Just because someone elects to remove himself from crowded meatspace does not mean that they don't want fast & reliable access to information. In fact, a fast datastream would probably be desired, to keep more in touch with loved ones or other significant entities. In the crowded conditions most of us live in, most of our time is spent in reaction to our environment (lines, traffic jams, pollution, etc.), while living out in the boondocks may free that aspect of our lives up a bit. If we can still be jacked in and productive (telecommuting), even better!

  2. 0 day man, 0 day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are you supposed to get some 0 day on a modem? Compression is good, but not that good.

  3. It will never happen, but. by HiKarma · · Score: 4, Informative

    I believe that today under 20% of homes get TV via over the air broadcasts. And the number is dropping. The rest get satellite or cable.

    It's clear that if we opened up all that broadcast spectrum to unlicenced use, it could easily generate enough revenue to provide free satellite or cable for those few homes still with an antenna.

    And just think of the huge value from getting all that spectrum for new technology, largely unlicenced uses.

    Of course, the National Association of Broadcasters is one of the most powerful forces in the country. They think of that spectrum as "their property" even though they are blocking much more productive use. Same with the military.

    So it won't happen, but we can dream.

    1. Re:It will never happen, but. by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to the article the intelligent radios are signaling at such low power that they can use the spaces that are unused between TV stations to keep TV stations from interfereing with each other. So TV stations don't have to give up their channels.

    2. Re:It will never happen, but. by stephens_domain · · Score: 1

      I believe that over 99% of all statistics in /. comments are made up on the spot.

      Even if this is a valid number, 20% of households is still a huge number.

      So this spectrum is opened to unlicensed use. Where exactly does the revenue come from? Sure, companies that make devices that utilize the spectrum will make money, are you proposing these products be taxed? How then will it be decided who gets their new cable service paid for with this tax? Anyone who did not already have it? People who can't afford it? Do we really want to go down that road?

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    3. Re:It will never happen, but. by HiKarma · · Score: 1

      The number I actually recalled was either 13% or 17% so I played it safe.

      The revenue would come from taking some of that spectrum and selling it off, enough to cover the costs of providing cable/satellite to everybody else (basic service only) and the rest could become open spectrum.

      It is a difficult question how to allocate the money but I would say to get it -- basic service only, local channels only -- you would have to not have cable/dbs right now, but have a TV and antenna.

      In other words, no great benefit for getting it, because all it does is replace your antenna system, no new channels, no cable channels.

      As soon as you want more channels than you could get OTA, you have to pay the same as everybody else.

    4. Re:It will never happen, but. by HiKarma · · Score: 1

      Let them broadcast if they want, but let them do it in the same spectrum shared with everybody else, with the only rules being about power.

      Let anybody put up their own TV station. There should be be blessed monopolies that are the only ones to have TV stations.

    5. Re:It will never happen, but. by stephens_domain · · Score: 1

      It sounds good on the surface, but I think it would be a slippery slope. Some politician would eventually lobby that these poor kids should not be deprived of the Discovery Channel, then TLC...

      You also have the problem that cable is not available to all consumers. Would we then pay for sat. equipment so they can get basic broadcast channels via sat.? What if they can't get a sat. signal either?

      Aside from that problem, I would take another tactic. The networks/affiliates are paying for all of the infrastructure, towers, etc., to support the broadcasts. If they took that money and gave it to the cable company, could the cable company not make the broadcast channels available to everyone for no charge? That won't happen though since local channels are the only things keeping some people from switching from cable to sat.

      Don't get me wrong, I am not saying people have a right to broadcast TV. It is a business. Government should stay out of it as much as possible. While it remains a viable business, broadcast TV should stick around. When that stops, it should die as any product would. FCC will handle the bands as they come available, but we don't need the government making sure that everyone has a TV signal. Have you read The Running Man?

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    6. Re:It will never happen, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Statistics remembered off the top of your head are almost as bad as made up ones. The current cable penetration of US homes is 67.4%. Source: National Cable and Telecomm Assoc

      You might have been thinking of the study in '99 which said that 80% of households with yearly income over $50k had cable.

      Googling takes only 15 seconds. Who was it who said "only fools argue the facts"? I couldn't find ~that~ in 15 seconds on Google, but I did find this gem:
      "Only fools argue over the internet" - Rory, Bahamas Security

  4. Do We Still Need Telcos (and ISPs)? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Guess not for much longer...

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  5. coincidentally by sailboatfool · · Score: 1, Informative

    Read the latest article about UWB by Cringly. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030612. html

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    1. Re:coincidentally by hey · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but he talked about UWB not working over the air but instead over cable. Cable TV cable to be exact.

  6. This will never happen by thinkliberty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The FCC won't go for it. knowing Morse code is still a requirement to use HF ham bands, even though you can now use a computer to code/decode it. See www.nocode.org
    I can't think of one positive the FCC has done for RF bandwidth in a long time. Why would they start with this?

    1. Re:This will never happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The requirement that Ham Operators know morse code is perhaps a throwback to the days of WWII, or before, when the government wanted "an installed base, if you will" of radio operators that know code, for military purposes. I had a novice license first, for which I had to know 5 wpm, (1954) and then a General Class, with 20 wpm. Back then, money was tight for teens, so we had to do with 30-50 watt home-built transmitters, and to modulate the carrier (voice) was more complicated. We got into SSB, and DSB, but only if we had $$. So, code was it, and I even had a "bug". So, the FCC has a basic purpose, to regulate the bands, who gets what, and to maximize the bands for existing technology. I remember "winning" a 2-meter converter at a Ham Fest, went home, hooked it up, and no one was there...
      I had a 40 meter converted WWII bomber receiver, still wish I had it, 40 meters was big half a century ago. The FCC probably does not want to allocate bands for technology that is expensive, not for the masses, etc. The FCC took 11 meters away from the Hams and gave it to the CBer's, as an example.

    2. Re:This will never happen by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know anyone who has tried to use a computer to decode morse code wouldn't say things like that. In many ways its like handwriting recognition, or ocr. Many computers have a hard time with high speed code, straight keys and bugs. Is it a g, or a m and an e going really fast - sometimes it sounds the same to me.

      There are much better digital modes to use if you have a computer - I think the most popular is PSK31.

      The CW requirement is actually part of an international treaty set up by the ITU - international telecommunications union. Personally I think the whole no-code arguement is a lot of people who want something for nothing - frankly if everyone who reads this studied 15-30 minutes a day for a few weeks you could pass the exam easily. Do you want it? Earn it.

      Most ham bands are less then 400 khz wide (thats less then half a mhz) - the largest hf band is 1.7 mhz wide (10 meters) and it has to be shared by other hams (and sometimes other groups like commercial operators and military/government operators) running a variety of modes responsibly.

      As far as one positive thing the FCC has done recently - how about 60 meters? Most of us are now allowed to operate on there. Its only 5 channels, but its more then we used to have.

    3. Re:This will never happen by Eyston · · Score: 1

      I can't think of one positive the FCC has done for RF bandwidth in a long time.

      "The starting gun was just fired in February 2002 when the FCC allowed limited use of UWB techniques in the 3.1- to 10-GHz spectrum."

      -Eyston

    4. Re:This will never happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 WPM is less than single letter at a time dictation speed.

      I don't think that's asking a lot.

    5. Re:This will never happen by obiwan2u · · Score: 1
      I agree that the current Republican administration would typically side with the established big business interests (ouuu, did I show my liberal bias?), but in this case the FCC also likes the entrenpenurial aspect of the 802.11b mania. From the article:
      What enabled the FCC even to consider the idea of an open spectrum has been the unexpected success of Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 standard) wireless LAN.... Products and services based on the 802.11b standard created a $2.9 billion industry in 2002. The FCC then saw that technology and standards can use spectrum in ways that seem to create more capacity.
      Too bad not enough money was spent on research so that a 802.11b has fatally flawed security.
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    6. Re:This will never happen by rberger · · Score: 2, Informative
      Hi, I'm the author of the ACM Queue article on Open Spectrum. Nice to see that it got slashdotted!

      I did a pretty major research project on Open Spectrum this year at the Center for Global Communications in Tokyo that included studying the FCC's Spectrum Policy Task Force and other FCC utterings. Also was on some panels with folks from the FCC or who worked with the FCC.

      In many ways, it is appropriate to question if the FCC will make these kind of changes in our lifetimes. There is a significant portion of the FCC who want to completely privitize spectrum!

      But there are also a good group of progressive folks there who really believe that Open Spectrum may be an important set of tools to get them out of the deadlock of traditional spectrum allocations. Everyone should really read the FCC's Spectrum Policy Task Force Report. Its truely amazing that any government buearacracy could ever produce something like this. There are a bunch of other supporting documents at the FCC SPTF page.

      Unfortunately it does seem that the trend is for the Lobbyists to overwhelm any technological impertives within the FCC and for the FCC top management to go with the political flow instead of doing the right technical thing.

      The situation that someone mentioned about low power FM was a case where the FCC had done the right thing. They showed that there was no technological reason why there could not be new low power FM stations added without interfering with exisiting FM stations. The passed a rulemaking that allowed such low power FM stations. As soon as the FCC did that, the National Assocation of Broadcasters went to Congress and had Congress pass a law to overturn the FCC rules allowing low power FM.

      So its not always the FCC that is the retro party in these things. Unfortunately the FCC tends not to have the balls to push forward these things even when they believe in them because of all this political wind that is against them.

      So that is why all of us in the techno community should be following this, submitting opinons to the FCC and supporting congressmen who are promoting things like more unlicensed spectrum. Senators Barbara Boxer (California) and George Allen (Virginia) have co-authored legislation called the Jumpstart Broadband Act. This bill calls for the FCC to allocate not less than 255 megahertz of contiguous spectrum in the 5 gigahertz band for unlicensed use by wireless broadband devices. The FCC Chairman Powell has already generated an NPRM supporting this action.

      So its true that the FCC is slow and will probably not do the right thing very often. But we should support those in the FCC that are trying and we should not give up the fight to bring Open Spectrum into reality just as Open Source has defied all odds to become a major force in the computer world.

    7. Re:This will never happen by thinkliberty · · Score: 1

      I have no problem decoding morse code with my computer, even with high speed code. I wrote my own program that automatic spell checking to close the gaps between words. It's not rocket science. That is how I learned morse code.

  7. Definition of intelligent radio by allrong · · Score: 5, Funny

    One that filters out all talkback and boyband/britney clone pop.

    Elminate that and you've cleared up a large chunk of the spectrum!

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    What is the inverse of the Matrix?
  8. This NEEDS to happen! by Got-Tea-Rolls · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, I live only 3 miles from the DSL limit and it angers me greatly. I have a crappy 24.4 connection. This would be great if I could be able to download stuff at highspeed. A few weeks ago I had to drive into town and go to a business of a friend to download a patch for Mac OSX that was 85mb. Satellite sucks, if this could eliminate the last mile problem that would be great.

  9. Speaking as someone who lives in the wilderness... by poptones · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The answer, for some of us, is "yes, absolutely."

    Wanting to live in a cave doesn't always mean one wants to turn his back on knowledge and information.

    So what's the big deal with broadband? So you get to view Slashdot 2 seconds faster.

    Apparently you live in a different kind of "wilderness." Sorry for you, but being a hermit doesn't have to mean being a luddite. Nor does choosing to live in a "green ecosystem." Modern technology presents all sorts of new opportunities - even to those who choose to separate themselves from the greater of "society." In fact, that's the best part of it.

  10. Riiighht.... by weston · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just like modern tuning and broadcasting equipment freed up spectrum resources for low power FM....

    Tech's half the story. How the authorities see fit and/or are lobbied to allocate spectrum is the other half.

  11. The myth of interference by xixax · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This reminds me of David Reed's idea that our current method of allocating chunks of the radio spectrum is as stupid as the idea of licencing colours.

    Xix.

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    "Everything is adjustable, provided you have the right tools"
  12. hmm. and they flamed this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who wanted almost the same thing

    same tech. difference is who owns it.

    1. Re:hmm. and they flamed this guy by nounderscores · · Score: 1

      Interesting. And people are saying "It'll never happen" about this idea as well.

      Have we become so disillusioned that we don't believe in open mesh networks anymore? Are we afraid that the regulators will kill the idea because it smacks of freedom?

      I mean, this is slashdot!

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    2. Re:hmm. and they flamed this guy by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      Well, we are talking about the United States, right?

      I mean, it ain't exactly "The Land Of The Free", now is it?

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      -1 Uncomfortable Truth
    3. Re:hmm. and they flamed this guy by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

      Hey, ShieldW0lf , I wanted you to see this in regards
      to a post of yours yesterday .

      Thanks man !

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67427&thresh ol d=0&commentsort=0&tid=137&tid=193&mode=thread&pid= 6187187#6195347

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    4. Re:hmm. and they flamed this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it is a shame that useless morons such as yourself, who forget that they should not speak, are not eradicated from the gene pool upon sight.

  13. The Grass Roots by poptones · · Score: 2, Interesting
    But the way that needs to be answered is at the grass roots level. And one great way you ensure that is through civil disobedience - that is, lots of small communities making use of new technology in their local infrastructure and proving it works. Once you have a critical mass of support at that level, state representatives have no choice but to lobby in their behalf.

    Is there any GPL software, fairly widely used, that supports an open standard for voice communications? Sure, I know there are plenty of standards for VOIP, but what's being used, now? If I went to my neighbors and told them we could "unwire" the neighborhood using cheap PCs and have not only local phone service but also faster internet connectivity than we get now, half the people in this very rural "town" of 200 would pony up tomorrow.

    But, so far as I know, that technology doesn't yet exist. And until it does - until "broadband" means reliable, versatile connection to your neighbors rather than just really fast porn access, you can hang pervasive broadband on a hatrack.

    1. Re:The Grass Roots by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Actually, I had a rather interesting discussion with someone about this. The guy was somewhat technical, but not techie (if you can appreciate the difference :) ).

      Basically, I said that with a couple of hundred geeks in a city buying wifi (or whatever wireless tech) towers and setting them up, at a cost of â600 plus the cost of the supporting pc's and the software to drive it all (probably open source, if someone sits down to write it), everyone with a wifi (or whatever) PDA or 'mobile phone' could have free telephone services, cutting out the telco's completely except for inter-city communications (nothing which a relay of hotspots couldn't sort out).

      His responce? "That has to be illegal somehow." Goes to show how moronic regulation is now accepted, or even expected, by the general public.

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
  14. Ummm...beg to differ by bethanie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, I wouldn't say we live in the "wilderness" per se -- we're a short 15 minutes from the county seat, and lord knows Wal-Mart is just 10 miles down the road! But it sure would be nice to be able to hook into the DSL that's 3 [road] miles away.

    A modem speed of 56K isn't the end of the world, but when that's all the bandwidth you have and you're both surfing at once, it can be torturous. I use the Net a LOT less since moving to the country (and away from our cable modem). Believe me -- I notice the difference!!

    Another issue for us is that the max upload speed we're getting is 33K -- try e-mailing pix of the baby to parents on the left coast with THAT!! It takes *hours*.

    So, just a few things to think of before "stating the obvious" about those of us who live "in the wilderness." We wanted to get away from suburban sprawl and be able to own some land and a nice house -- not abandon civilization (which is defined, of course, by the availability of high-speed Internet access!) ;-)

    ....Bethanie....

    1. Re:Ummm...beg to differ by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Another issue for us is that the max upload speed we're getting is 33K -- try e-mailing pix of the baby to parents on the left coast with THAT!! It takes *hours*.

      Have you tried compressing the pictures?

  15. Readership by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    a moderately dense article

    C'mon, this is Slashdot. "Moderately dense" should be "light reading" for us.

    Right?

  16. Test it in unlicensed spectrum first by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Open spectrum advocates can gain a lot of credibility by demonstrating techniques like SDR, cognitive radio, and mesh networking in the existing unlicensed bands. (The article mentions LocustWorld, which is a commendable example.) Once there's quantitative information on the benefit of the technology it will be appropriate to ask the FCC to reconsider the current spectrum policy.

    1. Re:Test it in unlicensed spectrum first by Eyston · · Score: 1

      That seems like what is going on with UWB. They allowed limited use in the 3.1GHz to 10GHz range. Article goes on to say if it proves succesful they expect the range to be increased(lowered below 3.1GHz). Seems reasonable. I don't have a handy graph of the spectrum allocations, but most media-money-making spectrum is below 3.1GHz, so testing above that is a safer bet.

      UWB looks pretty interesting, especially if it is opened to the full spectrum. I think even Intel is playing along. It is rather short range although I'm not sure if that is a consequence of UWB in general, or due to the power/frequency limitations applied. Since it theoretically doesn't interfere with anything, it seems as a good a place as any to put theory to practice.

      Anyways, FCC seems to be listening after the success of WiFi. Hope their attention holds.

      -Eyston

    2. Re:Test it in unlicensed spectrum first by Myself · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about 802.11b is that it's not spread spectrum in any sense of the word I'm familiar with. It's not resistant to interference, it's not compatible with other transmitters on the same band, and it certainly doesn't appear as "background" to another device. Witness 802.11b versus X10 video cameras. If these were truly spread spectrum, they'd never even notice each other except for a bump in the noise floor.

      Read the article Resisting 802.11 zealotry and tell me what you think.. This raises a lot of good points about why 802.11b is a bad example for a lot of what's being discussed here.

      I agree that implementing these ideas in the existing unlicensed spectrum is the only sensible way to prove that we deserve access to more. It's a neat coincidence that this makes true wideband SDR totally unnecessary, since we already have transceivers that work happily in all the part-15 bands, and many implementations are just a radio front end coupled to a DSP. (Ricochet comes to mind. Anyone wanna reverse engineer some poletops?)

      The real hurdle I see is protocol problems. Look at the 802.11b hotspot disaster. Look at the cacophony of incompatible cell phone standards! Think of what happens when arbitrary numbers of monkeys write HTML with proprietary extensions, and try to tell me with a straight face that developers will be able to cooperatively share spectrum.

  17. Intelligent radios? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lemme tell you something: As long as companies like Clear Channel rules the airwaves, radio will NEVER be intelligent.

  18. an easier solution by brandonfan · · Score: 1

    and easier to make highspeed internet free could be with WI-FI. at least in urban areas. they could just start constructing buildings with this on there. this really wouldnt work in rural areas though.

  19. Given the pedigree... by sn00ker · · Score: 1
    of Dr. Kolodzy, it would seem that the FCC were actually quite serious about getting good ideas for dealing with the spectrum shortage.
    You don't use someone with a background at MIT and Lockheed Martin to give you a stack of paper with words on it.

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    "God, root, what is difference?" - Pitr, userfriendly
    1. Re:Given the pedigree... by dtmos · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you get a chemical engineer who's never done anything out of the defense sector (i.e., never had to meet the needs of the commercial market).

      For me to take the open spectrum concept seriously I'd have to hear the people that have designed communication products and networks (and therefore have demonstrated that they understand the problems with existing systems) espouse it. Having non-specialists declare that the status quo is all wrong, and that they have a much better way, is one of the hallmarks of pseudoscience.

    2. Re:Given the pedigree... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      No: saying someone is wrong just because he doesn't have a background in that area without countering the claims or showing that the premise is incorrect is pseudoscience. Real science is talking about the actual claims, not about the person making them.

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    3. Re:Given the pedigree... by per+unit+analyzer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      No: saying someone is wrong just because he doesn't have a background in that area without countering the claims or showing that the premise is incorrect is pseudoscience. Real science is talking about the actual claims, not about the person making them.

      To some degree I agree with you, however, the Open Spectrum crowd is lead primarily by computer scientists who as far I can tell have ignored some of the issues that crop up when designing radio real radio systems, especially when it comes to receivers. They wave their hands and say this new paradigm will leave all the old technology behind.

      All of the literature I have read has focused on interference as occurring when two narrow band transmitters try using the same channel. This is the obvious case and the reason we have distinct allocations of the electromagnetic spectrum today. However, there are other modes of interference that occur even when two transmitters are transmitting on different channels. What about intermodulation interference (intermod)? Intermod occurs when two signals mix (multiply by one another) in the non-linear portions of a receiver to produce spurious signals that wipe out the real signal of interest. What about desense which occurs when one strong signal kilohertz or megahertz away from the signal of interest swamps the front end and makes the receiver deaf to all other signals? These types of problems have been dealt with by RF engineers for years in an environment where the spectrum was supposedly cafefully managed. (Some would say micromanaged.) If the spectrum turns into a free-for-all, I shudder to think the problems that will arise. Transmitting at a low power will mitigate these problems to a degree, but not all radio applications can be low power. (Think rural areas...)

      You want to talk about actual claims? How about the claim that software defined radios (SDRs) are frequency agile and can operate anywhere they want. What you will find if you actually try to build an SDR receiver is that current CPU and A-to-D technology is not fast enough to work directly in the E-M spectrum. Depending on the design, you'll be limited to 0-30 MHz at best. To go higher, you'll need to use one of two methods, downconversion (mixing) or undersampling. Both of these processes require the use of filters and possibly other analog components that bring many of the same problems as they do in traditional radios. There are similar issues on the transmit side. There are still some excellent reasons to do SDR instead of traditional radios, however true frequency agility is still far out on the horizon.

      I like many aspects of the Open Spectrum movement. There are some workable concepts there. However, I think it's being overtaken with hype and I worry that hype will hurt the credibility of the truly valid concepts. When I see engineers with real RF experience making the Open Spectrum movement's claims, I will be much less skeptical.

      --zawada

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      In Soviet Russia, the Beowulf cluster imagines you!
    4. Re:Given the pedigree... by dtmos · · Score: 1

      I agree, and thank you for your support. My position is stated in this comment.

    5. Re:Given the pedigree... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Now that's real science :P Thanks for posting that; it's an interesting and informative read.

      On a side note, do you know of any good document or online resource for someone interested in antenna theory (specifically energy decrease over distance and measurement of that decrease), who has had his highschool physics, but isn't getting any electromagnetic theory in his mechanical engineering study?
      I ask because, well, I have 'plans', and you seem quite knowledgeable in this area.

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
    6. Re:Given the pedigree... by dtmos · · Score: 1

      At the high school physics level (i.e., no calculus), the first thing that comes to mind is the ARRL antenna book. It has a good chapter on theory, and another one on measurement techniques. A book more narrowly focussed on HF antennas is Carr's Practical Antenna Handbook, but it lacks the breadth of the ARRL book. A book devoted to the antennas and propagation common to handheld, portable products (including indoor propagation and measurement of the effects of the human body on radiation patterns) is Radiowave Propagation and Antennas for Personal Communications by Siwiak. I've used it for years; it's an excellent reference. If you'd like to "learn from the simulator," Makarov's book seems like a good introduction to antenna analysis with Matlab, but I've not used it. But really, the calculus you must have to get a mechanical engineering degree is sufficient for the general theory sections of most antenna texts, such as Bolanis, Kraus, or Stutzman and Thiele. The general rule, of course, is that in free space the radiation intensity goes down with the square of the distance, while in indoor environments the "path loss exponent" increases to something between two and and four.

    7. Re:Given the pedigree... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Thanks a bundle! Especially for Siwiak and Makarov's books; indoor propagation and attenuation and Matlab simulation are /exactly/ what I'm looking for.

      Now all I hope is that I can get 'round the interference caused by monitors, speakers and mobile phones to get accurate enough readings. 3d positional data, here I come :)

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
  20. Only a hint, not there yet by SamBC · · Score: 1

    Of course, the 'last mile' of this plan is quite a difficult hurdle too - an area of the radio spectrum isn't free until the relevant authorities in an area say so. I am willing to bet that they won't say so until there is negligible use of the band by the 'old' use, either.

    This is a sign of a step towards greater availability, but still a long way off. Good show though, and I hope it makes its way there sooner or later. Unfortunately widespread adoption of new radio technology (such as DAB) always seems to be slow. I'm not old enough to remember the introduction of FM, but was that slow too?

  21. Re:Telegraphy not required by Migraineman · · Score: 1

    You can obtain a restricted Technician Class license without knowing Morse -
    FCC Amateur Operator Classes
    If you want to use HF, you're probably going to need it because the channel allocations are so small.

  22. What we need is less by jandersen · · Score: 1

    People keep talking about how we need more and more: 'more connectivity', 'more bandwidth'.... But there's a reason why broadband is not happening as quickly as some would like: people don't need it.

    First of all, there is a difference between 'needing' and 'finding it useful once you have it'. I don't think anyone really needs the Internet, or only very few. Just look at what is actually flowing around there: adverts, lame entertainment etc etc. High quality information is not what takes up the capacity out there, that much is certain. We only need more in the same sense as we need a bowl of popcorn or a fancy dress.

    As for the usefulness, if we had the huge capacity etc: many people would probably find that it was quite nice on occasion, but would they really use it?

    Shopping - I have only ever bought 2 kinds of things on the internet: books, if I know the title in advance, and flight tickets (again I know where I want to go).

    Entertainment: No way. I hardly watch more than two or three channels, and certainly not every day - I have better things to do, as I suspect many people do.

    Information: This is the one thing that the internet is seriously good for. But I normally don't mind waiting for a little while when I download things - to me information is something I want to spend time on learning, so the download time is not a huge issue.

    Mail: I receive 2 or 3 useful emails per day. But I receive maybe 50 - 100 mails about eternal youth, penis enlargement and illegal medicine.

    So I'd say we need less internet capacity and more expensive access. That way it would probably only be used by those that actually need it.

  23. *sigh* Not again ... by dtmos · · Score: 3, Informative

    The open spectrum concept raises its ugly head again. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; it combines the sexiest of terms (Moore's Law! Metcalfe's Law! SDR! UWB! Spread Spectrum! Mesh Networks! Open Source!) in one neat package, tied with a bow. If only they could work in the magnetic bracelet that cures arthritis, it would be a marketer's dream.

    There are other reasons for spectrum allocation besides the "technology limitations" cited in the ACM article. Two of the most significant are:

    1. The spectrum is used for many different services, with differing Quality of Service (QoS) requirements. Some of these, like the Instrument Landing Systems at airports, emergency services, GPS, etc. I'd like to have dedicated spectrum available solely to them 24x7; the idea that a trapped fireman's call on his handheld 2-way radio is not heard because of interference from a nearby mesh network providing video packets of a football game (or, if you like, the trapped fireman's call on his limited-range Open Spectrum radio is not heard because the burning building's network is already down) is not very appealing.

    Other services, like industrial heating (and even microwave ovens) do not even use the RF spectrum for communication at all; if not limited in spectrum these large transmitted power services can render people incommunicado over large physical areas. Open Spectrum advocates will claim that this last problem will be overcome by the processing gain of the Open Spectrum radio itself; I merely note that increasing processing gain is increasingly expensive, and getting 60 dB of processing gain is a severe pain at wideband bit rates, while it is a trivial exercise for a tuned circuit if the spectrum is allocated properly.

    2. The spectrum has different physical properties that make certain frequencies (and frequency bands) more suitable for certain services. Services that require ionospheric refraction need to operate below 30 MHz; systems using satellite-earth links must operate above 30 MHz. Systems requiring a lot of antenna gain, such as space probes and terrestrial point-to-point links, need to be a high frequency (multiple GHz), where high gain can be achieved in a small physical size by the use of parabolic antennas. Systems requiring worldwide underwater coverage must be below 100 Hz. There are atmospheric attenuation peaks at 24 and 60 GHz (and others higher) caused by oxygen absorption that make these frequencies useless for any trans-atmospheric links, but ideal for short-range unlicensed systems (that's why there are ISM unlicensed bands there). Rain (a.k.a. hydrometeors) becomes a significant attenuator above 5-20 GHz, depending on the rate at which it falls; this affects systems in tropical regions more than those in more temperate areas (see a graph of atmospheric attenuation). The hydrogen line (1420.40575 MHz), used by astronomers, is a fixed frequency. Etc.--this is just a partial list. All frequencies are not created equal.

    However, if you'd like to stick to technical problems, consider the multiple access problem for these systems.

    The success of 802.11b is often cited as an example for the Open Spectrum initiative--an unlicensed band being used productively. However, 11b has now become the 800-lb. gorilla in the 2.4 GHz ISM band; other services attempting to use that band must coexist with it, but it doesn't have to coexist with them. Any interference it causes to these new services must be borne by them; as a result, we have created a de facto allocated band.

    1. Re:*sigh* Not again ... by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Nicely said. As a licensed user of both 900 MHz and 2.4 GHz (Amateur Radio), I find the infringement of multitudes of unlicensed services and the resulting increase in daily interference to be distasteful.

      I could complain until I'm blue in the face to the people with the authority to enforce the rules (unlicensed users MUST NOT CAUSE UNDUE INTERFERENCE to licensed users of the spectrum) but the flood of unlicensed transmitters would simply drown me out in the noise.

      This is not proper bandwidth allocation at all, and if the 2.4 ISM band is considered a "success" it's a pretty sad one. 900 MHz is virtually useless in most Metropolitan areas for licensed users, and 2.4 GHz is certainly headed that direction.

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  24. the only practical workaround... by zogger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that I have found is tabbed browsing. I'm one of those on a slow staticy rural dialup, just too far away from the nearest telco switch, and even then, the cost would be prohibitive for what they offer for *dsl. Well, to me anyway. 56k modems just slap don't work, I have three of them, they lose connectivity so quickly that they are useless. Next down I use a 33k modem, and only when the weather is perfect. That's my main modem, fairly robust and reliable, but again, the minute the lines get more static and noise, poof, they dropconnection. Right now, the only way I can even stay online is by using a 14.4 modem, as it is storming out. This might last all summer, just depends on the weather. The workaround is social,there is no actual hardware solution that I think I can do (satellite is out, that's one thousand bucks or something) I just load various tabs with content, then go do something else. It takes minutes sometimes to load pages, even with images turned off,etc. I will say that xmms playing radio mp3 streams is very nice no matter what,it gives me one more cool *thing* to do with the net, I only listen to lower bitrate talk stations, beats the pants off any other streaming tech out there, real, quicktime, windows media, winamp, etc. The old mac classic soundjam does the next best job on slow connections with mp3s. Of course I have a lot of other "real" radios as well,I just like the ability to get exactly what I want off the net, I mean this thing is sitting here turned on anyway, one less hardware device to power up.

    I would really like broadband, I'll pay x-amount to me reasonable money for it WHEN it becomes avaialable, but yes, I won't trade my other real life interests and advantages I enjoy about living rural "just" for broadband. I lived heavy urban for years, nothanks, I'll pass now, did my time in crime city, constant loud, stinky (cities literally stink, you don't notice it until you've been away for awhile and go back into one), expensive this or that, etc. There are a lot of advantages, but a lot of disadvantages to urban life. And vice versa, neither is "perfect".

    OK, back to connectivity. Whichever company that comes up with an easy to use, reliable and cheap universal wireless "solution" for that last mile WILL get my business, and there's millions of people out there who will buy it as well. Perhaps it's a niche market, but what ain't once you get down to it? Look at what happened with small dish cheap satellite TV when cable wouldn't go there to that last mile and when some mastermind noted that large dishes and hardware were too expensive for a lot of people, there was a niche market for something besides 1.5 fuzzy channels of over the air tv option, rural people jumped on it in droves. They weren't willing to move to the city for a lot of clear TV, that still didn't mean they didn't like to have some TV, a market that went begging for a long time.

    It's like cheap downloadable music tracks, a market that went begging for years, literally went begging, people-potential customers- going "here, take our money we want this product". They got told to go &*&&^k themselves by the music monopoly. It was that insulting, hence the popularity of napster and etc and yada yada yada. Half of it was to just insult those bungers right back. Now how many songs has apple sold so far, because all they did was respond to a market going begging??

    I will guarantee ANY of you companies or developers out there, you offer a wireless last mile that WORKS, that doesn't cost outrageous money, and that provides even a slightly more reliable and faster connection than most-alleged "56Kbps" rural dialup, you'll get rich, you'll get obscenely stinking rich, you have millions and millions of potential customers out there.

    Sometimes the bean counters are wrong. A lot of times they are, really, they over estimate one potential profit maker while completely ignoring another one, and usually because the new potential is just that, new, or they aren't aware of it. I sincerely doub

  25. Re:Telegraphy not required by per+unit+analyzer · · Score: 1
    If you want to use HF, you're probably going to need it because the channel allocations are so small.

    No, the FCC requires you to know code to legally operate on HF because an international treaty requires them to. I believe there is a proposal on the table at WRC-03 to remove that requirement.

    --zawada

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    In Soviet Russia, the Beowulf cluster imagines you!
  26. Claude Shannon, priority, and spectrum use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The article is very sparing of the technical details. That's probably because they're promising more than any technology can deliver.

    No matter how you cut it, there is a relationship between system throughput and signal-to-noise ratio. There's a minimum energy per bit that's related to the noise level. Not enough energy, the BER increases beyond the limits of any possible ECC, and throughput craters. The more nearly ideal you make the ECC, the more abrupt will be the transition from "no problem" to "no data".

    The nasty thing about the wild, wild west model of spectrum (non)management is that there is no safe haven. There is no allocation of spectrum from the highest priority uses (air traffic safety) through the mundane (broadcast) to the "standby passengers" (WiFi). A low priority use is allowed to collide with a life-safety system. The results may be locally efficient, but are poor policy globally--a classic application of macroeconomic theory in action.

  27. Re:Dolphins: FAQ on Mating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but still highly informative