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12/7 and Overtime on a Salary?

over-timeout! asks: A company I work for (in the U.S.A.) had submitted a statement of work to a client, who waited for a month before signing the work order. The work order explicitly stated a timeline which would start from the time the order is signed. However, the client is insisting on the project being completed by a fixed date, as discussed with our company's management, instead of the deadline that starts from the signing of the work order. Although our company representatives tried to push back on the date, the client refused. Because the client is among our company's biggest customers, our company's management caved in and agreed to their deadlines. Management has told us meeting deadlines means that for the next month to six weeks all of the developers involved will have to work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. The contractors involved are going to get compensated by being paid by the hour. But us salaried employees are going to get nothing in return for trading in what's left of our life so someone else in the company above us can make money. Obviously this isn't fair, but what are the alternatives in this down economy, where jobs are hard to find?" A related articles on this subject discusses suing for overtime, and California residents should find this companion article pertinent, as well. What can you do when management agrees to a timeline and a workload that may make your job, as a programmer, difficult-to-impossible?

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  1. Re:Is this even legal? by pcwhalen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uh, yes.

    programmers are an exception to the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 - 29 USCA Â 213(17) --

    Â 213. Exemption
    (17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is--
    (A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications;

    You can't get overtime as a salaried programmer. I am really sorry.

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  2. Labor Board by chimpo13 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The National Labor Board has a page where you can contact your local office.

    Ask them what you can do.

  3. Re:They pretend to pay us... by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 5, Informative

    To elaborate, in the EU you cannot be forced to work more than 48 hours per week. You may volunteer to work more than 48 hours, but your employer cannot insist that you do and may not punish you for refusing to.

    There was a minor fuss when this EU regulation was incorporated into UK law, but it seems to have had no negative effect and provides protection for workers.

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  4. Re:wrongful dismissal by ucblockhead · · Score: 5, Informative
    Nah...unfortunately not.

    IANAL. However, I just spent two weeks in a jury on a "wrongful termination" case.

    In the US, there are only three reasons you can sue for this. 1) The company promised via explicit or implied contract that they wouldn't. (Exceedingly unlikely.) 2) You complained about safety and they fired you in retaliation. 3) They fired you for your race, age or gender.

    Since most companies employee people "at-will", they can essentially fire you for any damn reason they want, as long as you aren't a whistle-blower and as long as their reasons aren't discriminatory in specific ways.

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