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Working with ADHD?

Famanoran asks: "I've recently been diagnosed ADHD ? and am now taking Ritalin. I've found that it helps me rather significantly, but I'm keen to try other things that may help. My question is to the ADHD'ers on slashdot: How have you coped with ADHD, and how have you found it affect your work performance? Do you object to having ADHD? Have you tried natural alternatives such as DPA/EPA (Omega3), 5-HTP (natural precursor to serotonin), and what were your results? Also - How do you find it working in groups of people, either as the only ADHD'er there, or in a group of ADHD'ers? Do you think that your ADHD contributes to your abilities technically, or is it a hinderance?" Previously, Ask Slashdot dealt with ADHD in children, now what suggestion do you have for the grown-ups, with the additional burden of a career, who find themselves in the same situation?

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  1. I tend to distrust... by Corvaith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...any site claiming to have 'information' on something when that site is specifically in place to try and scare people away from something (like, say, psychiatry).

    Reliable info on psychiatric medications is unlikely to come from a group referring to itself as the Antipsychiatry Coalition. That is what is referred to as 'bias'.

  2. alternatives and cultural rant ahead... by deadsaijinx* · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmm, well. As someone who's also been diagnosed with ADHD, I have found that the most effective treatment is just to get outside in the fresh air and get a bit of excersize every day. Of course, in our current culture of instant gratification and having both parents working, we have come to a point where parents aren't willing to take the time to find a better alternative than to drug their child. Personally it sickens me. I knew this one family that put their 5 y.o. child on Ritalin. I ask you, what 5y.o. isn't hyperactive? And what kind of parent drugs their 5 y.o. kid for being a bit rambuncious?

    I myself only took Ritalin a few times, and I hated the way it affected me. As such, I don't take perscription drugs (not that I don't do other drugs, but that's another topic). No, for me the simplest thing to do was go outside and and run a few laps.

    Okay, now for the history of ADHD. Recent studies beleive that ADHD was a genetic defect that prooved useful for attracting mates, as the higher levels of activity exhibited by the ADHD addled individual was a sign of better health and strength.

    So, if the ADHD is getting in your way, then you should seek treatment. But a lot of people take Ritalin when it isn't neccesary. And watch out for dependencies. I knew a kid who no longer needed it, but he continued to take it because he claimed he could function without it. Ritalin is a mind altering drug, and people today don't give it enough respect.

    Anyway, how many posts are we gonna get reffering to Focusyns from the Simpsons?

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  3. Re:Ok but first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we just ASSUME, for once, that someone diagnosed with a psychological disorder actually has a psychological disorder?

    I've been diagnosed as bipolar, and I am sick to fucking death of having people tell me that I don't have a problem, and that I've just been mislead by the drug industry. I'm sick of people telling me that I should stop taking my medication, because I don't need it, when in fact, I go off my goddamn rocker without it, and that I like taking it.

    I know that ADHD has been notoriously overdiagnosed, but the asker isn't asking anyone to tell him whether or not he has it. He wants to know how others like him deal with the same kinds of problems.

  4. Please be respectful on this topic by Mephiska · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For an honest "ask slashdot" question from someone with ADHD, can the mods please not mod up post such as this as "funny", because they're not and they interfere with the purpose of the question. Making fun of the subject in this manner is a tired joke anyway.

    Try also to not let this turn into a debate as to the acceptedness of ADHD as a diagnosis. For many of us, this is a subject that is close to heart and quite frankly, many are tired of the obvious jokes and unacceptance. ADHD is real, it's here, so please, even if you don't have it, please respect it for what it is.

    As for me, I did encounter a bit of uncertianty when I informed my boss about my own ADHD. Many do not know anything about it so understanding is a constant struggle.

    As for meds, I have found Aderall XR to be quite effective, but like many ADD drugs, its amphetamine status makes it a pain because of the triplicate forms and many doctors can be apprehensive about prescribing it.

    There is a new drug released this year who's name escapes me, but it's a non-amphetamine drug that is much easier to deal with. Problems I have read, however, are some rare cases of folks finding they get odd violent tendencies or it can only make their ADHD symptoms worse. Just goes to show how much we truly understand this disease.

    For herbal remedies, I have yet to see a well controlled series of scientific studies of any treatment that makes as significant a difference as the more generally accepted medications.

    It's a fact of ADHD, If you have it, you take mphetamines, aka speed. Many respond quite well to it, so once you get over the fact that you're taking a "controlled substance", you can move on with your life and actually thrive quite well.

    1. Re:Please be respectful on this topic by heli0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ADHD is real, it's here, so please, even if you don't have it, please respect it for what it is.

      nih.gov/adhd
      What Causes ADHD?
      Health professionals stress that since no one knows what causes ADHD...

      Can Any Other Conditions Produce These Symptoms?
      The fact is, many things can produce these behaviors.

      Does that seem to warrant placing 17% of children on a mind-altering drug?
      Ritalin is just the laudanum of the 21st century.

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  5. Re:DSV IV criteria for ADHD by LoztInSpace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like standard behaviour for any healthy kid who's a bit bored and wants to go running around with his friends, getting covered in mud, falling out of trees etc.
    Alternatively, reading it again, it sounds more like someone who doesn't get enough exercise and enjoys sports more than office work. i.e. 99% of all office workers.
    Could it be our bodies haven't adapted to our office/TV/car dominated lifestyle?

  6. Re:how obnoxious by shadowbearer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some of us who suffer from medical problems have to find a way to laugh at it. It's a damn sight better than being depressed about it.

    There's such a thing as too much political correctness / sensitivity about some things. When you have problems you deal with every day, laughter is a great medicine.

    SB

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  7. Hunters vs Farmers by Poppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thom Hartmann ("ADD: A Different Perception.") doesn't believe that the ADD condition is a disability.

    He believes there are two kinds of people, Hunters and Farmers. Hunters have to scan the horizon, taking in all the inputs in order to find game. Farmers plod ahead, focused on plowing their current row.

    http://www.thomhartmann.com/hunterfarmer.shtml

    He found a high incidence of ADD in some natives in Canada (Inuit?), a tribe that gets most of their food by hunting.

    The problem with today's education system, is that we're trying to force Hunters to be Farmers. Ritalin, an amphetamine, calms Hunters down.

    But there are many successful Hunters that don't need to conform to the Farmer world. So, the Hunter should find a career that utilizes his traits (as noted in the above URL), and he will be successful and happy.

    My son was constantly getting kicked out of daycares for being too aggressive, and when his kindergarden teacher was totally exasperated because he would never sit down, we had him diagnosed. Giving him drugs was the last thing we wanted to do, but the alternative was major damage to his self-esteem because he couldn't control himself and felt like a failure. Too much Ritalin will make a kid into a zombie, I didn't like that. But just the right amount allowed him to control himself and he was much happier.

    Now that he's in high school, he quit taking those drugs. Earlier he had switched to Adderol, but it affected his heart. Now he's trying to deal with being a Hunter. It's very challenging, he's smart and scores high but gets very low grades because homework doesn't get done.

    I know he'll be successful in whatever he decides to do. I don't consider grades to be an indicator of his future success.

  8. Re:Theres no scientific proof for any of this. by Com2Kid · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • Look, Anger could be considred a disorder,

    Umm. . . .

    It is. Anger management problems ARE a recognized disorder, people get treated for it all the time. Hell I was treated for it.

    • but if I were to declare Anger as a learning disability,

    You would be laughed at, it is a social disability.

    • this student cant learn, this student needs medication, this student needs to be studied"

    A competent doctor (admittedly getting harder and harder to find by the day. . . .) would advice for therapy, much higher success rate and all. :) (I went in for a dual therapy / meds approach)

    • This does not solve the persons problem. Please tell me why a person with a short temper is considered "normal" however someone with ADHD has something wrong with them.


    • Also please explain to me why people who have short tempers just need to take anger management classes, while a person with ADHD must go on all these meds?

    Those two paragraphs contradict themselves. A person with anger management issues is NOT considered "normal" (WTF is normal any ways? :-P ), they are sent for anger management classes.

    And to answer your second question, it is because the success rate of therapy classes for most very low to mild cases of anger management issues is very high.

    Indeed, it is not until the extremely severe cases of anger issues that medicines start to be prescribed with regularity. But yes, they ARE prescribed.

    • Its the SAME kinda problem, I consider ADHD a personality trait. Just like short temper is a personality trait, and manic depression is a personality trait.

    HOW THE FUCKING HELL IS MANIC DEPRESSION A PERSONALITY TRAIT.

    Please explain to me how the f*ck people trying to KILL THEMSELVES is a freakin PERSONALITY TRAIT.

    regularly reoccurring bouts of SUICIDE are NOT an "issue" to be worked through, THEY ARE A SERIOUS FREAKING PROBLEM.

    Yeesh, next you are going to tell me that OCD is just a personality trait to! (Oh it is perfectly A-OK that she cut her fingernails down to the point of SEVERELY BLEEDING, bleck!)

    • Pills can only hide a persons natural traits, it cannot change them.

    An alternative view, pills can allow a person's natural traits to come out instead of being OVERRIDDEN by a CHEMICAL IMBALANCE.

    • Without pills these people wont know what to do with themselves,

    Without the pills it doesn't much matter because I do not have any control as to what I do!

    • I'm saying its treated like its some kinda disease that MUST be treated with drugs as the first option when most people in my opinion can learn to manage without drugs.

    Hey, don't get me wrong, I have always advocated for a dual therapeutic and medicinal approach with the pure therapeutic approach being tried first, but the fact is that making a blanket statement DISMISSING all of wide variety of medical research that has gone into treating ADHD as being irrelevant is FOOLISH.

    The pills CAN and DO and WILL CONTINUE to help people, it is unfortunate that some idiot doctors choose to over prescribe them out of either ignorance of malevolence.

    • But ok, lets assume you are right, and these drugs are completely safe, harmless with no side effects, lets say these drugs help make the mind sharp and help people concentrate, if this is true shouldnt they be marketed over the counter like anti depression, pain medication, and others?

    Where did I say they where side effect free?

    I personally use Dexedrine, which has the side effects of SHARPENING my concentration and SPEEDING up my mind. Soon after taking my dosage I can work damn near miraculous math problems in my head and figure out the solution to just about