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Microsoft Files 15 Lawsuits Against Spammers

Popsikle writes "A Seattle Paper reports that 'Microsoft Corp. announced it has filed 15 lawsuits against alleged e-mail spammers in Washington state and the United Kingdom on Tuesday.' It states the tough anti-spam laws in UK and Washington allows ISP's to sue spammers. This could be a good test of the new anti-spam laws." There's coverage on CNN as well. Microsoft has picked a good venue for such a case.

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  1. Re:Goodwill towards all by mbakaitis · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Knowing Microsoft and their ability to judge the return on any investment, I just can't see this as a credible reason for their action.

    More likely, they are doing it to reduce the amount of spam heading in towards Hotmail and their MSN services. The cost of managing this must be large and it may even be hurting them in the fight for the MSN-AOL user segment.

    In the long term, they may also be doing it as a good deal of spam is sent with their domain as a return address or with Microsoft trademarks in the subject line. As the spammers are trying to sell something, Microsoft may need to do something in order to show that they are protecting their trademarks...but IANAL, so this is speculation...

  2. Re:ahhh crap...... by TheDredd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For the Microsoft haters out there:
    Microsoft files 15 lawsuits against spammers to preserve HD space on Hotmail servers, and to make a bit of money
    For the Microsoft lovers out there:
    Microsoft files 15 lawsuits against spammers to prevent their customers from receiving unwanted mail

  3. Re:Gorilla Against Spam!! (GAS) by jkrise · · Score: 3, Interesting

    " I like the Washington law better, the one that Microsoft is suing under."

    Why? 'Cos the ISP (Internet Spam provider) gets to sue on your behalf (the user) and reap profits? Is spam is so inevitable and untracable, why not allow users to profit from it; if at all they succeed in tracking the source.

    There's more to this than meets the eye, surely.

    --
    If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
  4. Re:Gorilla Against Spam!! (GAS) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bullcrap.

    Just look at K-Mart for a great example of this -- I have yet to get them to remove one of my forwarding aliases from their stupid system.

    Why? Some idiot manager bought a cd of 5 million emails to add to their "Bluelight CRAP" email book. One, of course, was the harvested alias of mine.

    So, I called them. Told them in no uncertain terms to take that off.

    "But sir, why don't you just send the unsubscribe from that email account?"

    It's a fucking forwarding alias. I CANNOT SEND MAIL FROM IT. Therefore I never opted in. But K-Mart won't unsubscribe without an email specifically from that address.

    We went back and forth on this for about 15 minutes. I asked for the manager of their phone bank for the email division and got him. He denied ever doing something like that. Then he told me straight-out that only by sending an email to them could I have gotten subscribed in the first place so obviously I had opted in and could opt out the same way.

    He's obviously a fucking liar and DID buy a scavenged email CD from someone, or else they did a web harvest themselves.

    Don't kid yourselves. You can't trust the unsubscribe from a so-called "legitimate" business any more than you can the one from the spammers.

  5. Re:all the money in the world by letxa2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There is currently about $675 billion dollars in U.S. currency in circulation. If U.S. currency is $675 billion I highly doubt the rest of the world has an additional 181.3 trillion dollars in circulation.

    The above link also states that more than half of U.S. currency is in circulation *outside* of the U.S., so there's less than $330 billion in circulation within our country. Amazing isn't it? No, that doesn't mean that Bill Gates has 20% of the nation's wealth. It just demonstrates how money is created by the banking system. There are those that misunderstand this process (or don't believe it, amazingly enough!) and state that for someone to become rich someone else has to become poor. Thanks to the banking system this is NOT necessarily the case and also explains why a $10 trillion economy can work with only $330 billion in currency.

  6. Re:Gorilla Against Spam!! (GAS) by Build6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (a) everyone hates spam
    (b) MS has the legal resources to really have a go at the spammers (and at the least make sure they get a lot of publicity about it)

    Even if they lose, MS will be able to file their legal expenditures under "usefully spent money" in terms of the good publicity they'll buy re: the average joe on the street (and if they win they'll get the PR for free since they'll be recouping $$). All of a sudden they'd no longer be a corporation whose executives were repeatedly caught out prevaricating during their last trial, but instead a corp taking action to help everybody... .

  7. Because MS does not want to test EULAs. by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What stops Microsoft from appending some legal agreement in an EULA that specifies that their software can not be used by any individuals for the purpose of proliferating spam email. Define spam. Define a harsh penalty per email sent. Then try to enforce it.

    Microsoft does not want to risk the courts ruling that EULAs are not legal, binding contracts. If Microsoft were to take that case to court, the spammer could challenge the legality of the EULA, showing that it was not signed, that there was no evidence that he read read or understood it, that the click-through agreement allowed him to click on "I accept" without even forcing him to scroll to the end of the document, that he clicked it in .5 seconds, which was inadequate to read the entire document, that he did not know how the scroll bars worked and thought what showed in the window was the complete agreement, that he purchased the computer with the software already installed and he never clicked "I agree" at any point, etc., etc., etc.

    There is a reason that the BSA and software companies take pirates to court for copyright violation rather than for violating the terms of the legally questionable EULAs.