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Anarchy Online Gamer Responds

An anonymous reader writes "Thought some people might be interested in seeing a follow up on the NYT article about the Anarchy Online player. His reaction to it was less then supportive. You can read about what he had to say and what other players had to say." See the original story for background.

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  1. "I feel raped." by RATBOON · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I feel raped."

    a little overboard, i feel.

    but it cant have been nice.

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    1. Re:"I feel raped." by InferiorFloater · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think raped is an adequate way to describe defamation in a national newspaper. The reporter apparently violated thedeacon's trust on several counts, and to do it in a national newspaper is outright heinous.

      Thedeacon has a point when he says that private figures are not subject to the scrutiny of public figures. If the cost of law weren't so prohibitive, he'd probably sue, and would be absolutely justified in doing so. This sort of scandalous reporting deserves some serious publicity.

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    2. Re:"I feel raped." by Chmarr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rule #1: Never ever EVER trust the media. They're not in it to tell the truth, they're in it to sell papers and advertising space. If the truth gets told in the process, that's a bonus.

      This is something that several 'fandoms' have been learning over and over, and it never truely sinks in. Just when you think you're talking to someone that 'really gets it', and you think you're going to get a fair shake, they turn around and rape you again.

      Stuff that for a joke :)

  2. Jayson Blair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the worst part about the NYT scandal is that it's easy to accuse a bad story of being completely wrong now. All this shows is that somebody is a liar. Which side, I don't know. It's messed up regardless.

  3. Remember Connie Chung? by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She was interviewing a mother of a political figure (I forgot who). After the interview, the mother told Connie off the record that she felt that Hillary Clinton was a bitch. Not suprisingly, that "off the record" comment made it to the news. The moral of this story is that to the reporters, nothing is "off the record".

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  4. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Normally, I wouldn't recommend litigation, but the player concerned seems to feel that the article was very unfriendly (in his online reply he says he feels like he's been raped) so perhaps the legal route would be good for him, if only to provide a sense of closure.

    Keep in mind that in order to prove that libel was committed, one must prove that (1) something written as fact is false, (2) the person who wrote said misinformation knew it was false, and (3) there existed "actual malice". And if he can prove all of that, he must prove that he suffered actual damages.

    I'm not saying that libel didn't occur, I just don't want anybody to think that all you have to do to win a judgement in your favor is prove that something somebody wrote about you is false.

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  5. nice thing that /. has linked to this article by efuseekay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One reason I still read /.

    Although filled with usual bull, sometimes it does give the little guy a bigger voice.

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  6. reality by Fubar411 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the guy thought he would make it repairing computers out of his apartment. They're going through some financial difficulties and his wife stands by him. Then what does he do, but plunge himself into this video game where he is a god and the part time gamers have to do things like have their feet sucked and put up with his sexual ennuendos.

    The guy denies it, but from what I've read in the article, his original posts, and now this, he's in serious denial. He should be out there looking for a better job, honing skills, getting some education, loading boxes for UPS, whatever to get motivated to improve himself.

    Instead he is playing the victim, getting lots of attention, probably spending even more time in this pseudo-reality.

    I feel for his wife, this isn't the behavior of a life partner.

  7. Off the record.... by HowlinMad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    YOu have to be careful about off the record. For example, in the Connie Chung instance, the mom told Connie Chung she thought Hilary Clinton was a bitch, but there was a camera man there.... So later Connie Chung "asks" the camera man if he knows how the mom feels about Hilary Clinton. He was never told anything off the record, and so he can tell Connie Chung. There are other shady ways that this can happen as well. I for one would be interested in know what the NYT actual, not the one they feed you, off the record policy is.

  8. off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Cornelius+Chesterfie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I played a MUD (www.actofwar.com) in the year 2000 or so for the first time in my life after learning about it in IRC. It's a PK (Player Killing) game where you level up and group with other players from your city, to attack the players of one of the 3 other cities. It was addictive as hell, and rewards smart and fast thinking. I'd spend over 12 hours a day playing it. Nothing I could do could stop it...I'd delete my char (it's not very long to level) sometimes, only to make new ones. When there were no enemies on, instead of logging off I'd start a new char from a different class or run the monsters for good equipment.

    Over a year later I decided I'd had enough, gave away my chars and deleted ZMUD and never went there again. That's about the same time my friend lended me his Diablo 2 + Expansion CDs with a virgin CD key, and BAM! It started all over again. The first week I was a newbie trying to figure out where to go and how to do things, and 2 months later (due to inredible luck from the random item drops) I'm a rich-as-hell elite possessing the rarest bow in the game, and even though I wasn't having any fun, the preciousness (sp) of those virtual items was way too much to just abandon it all. However eventually the same same scenario happened again: I suddenly realized I was wasting my life, gave away the items, and deleted.

    As I type this now, I'm addicted to laziness. I spend my time playing old PC games, games of older consoles via emulation, and downloading music and porn off Kazaa. Once again it's time for a purge except this time it'll be more radical. I'm backing up whatever personal things I've gathered over the years (wacky pictures, rom collections, sex pictures I'm particularly fond of, irc logs, etc) to view again 10 years from now since this is basically the only memories I'll have of my late teenager years, and then I'mformatting my hard drive and giving the computer to my sister.

    If anyone else than me has gaming fucking up their life, I suggest they do the same. It might seem too radical, but you don't need that PC, no matter how big a geek you are (and I doubt you're a bigger geek than me), unless you're choosing a career down the road.

    1. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd recommend you seek advice for counseling/medication from your family practitioner with regards to depression. From what you wrote, Iâ(TM)m fairly certain this might be the underlying problem for your computer woes. Getting rid of your computer will not solve your problem. Getting professional help will. Depression vented through a computer (antisocial behavior) is actually a problem a lot of people have and folks just write it off as laziness/addiction. Do the right thing--help yourself while you are young.

  9. More Text by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    NYTimes.com, with its usual economic stupidity, has priced its archived content past what anybody will pay for it. This guy has the article into his blog. Read it now before the lawyers notice it!

    As for the accusations from TheDeacon: OK, the article was painfully sensationalistic. But there's no libel here. Yeah, they paint a picture of him and his life, he doesn't like. Yeah, they put stuff in the article about his financial situation he wanted to keep private. But there's no real misinformation. Just interpretations TheDeacon doesn't like.

    Get real, dude. Nobody sees a person as they see themselves. And no competent journalist will let the subject of an interview have editorial input. If you want your life to be private, be more careful who you talk to.

    1. Re:More Text by falloutboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      fm6 wrote:
      And no competent journalist will let the subject of an interview have editorial input.


      That isn't necessarily correct. There are often times that a source wishes to remain anonymous. For example, the identity of Woodward and Bernstein's "deep throat" was kept secret when they broke the Watergate scandal.

      For a journalist, cultivating sources means cultivating trust. In many instances, people are dying to talk, to get their name in the press (for example, Linda Tripp). In many other instances, people with valuable information may need to be assured of a certain level of control with regard to the information they divulge. A journalist who expects to do more than one story with a source that trusts them absolutely must respect boundaries.
  10. Re:Thank goodness... by Atario · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have to say, the NYT article didn't make me think this guy is some kind of loser. I think that should carry the weight of a nonbiased observer, coming from someone whose peak of online gaming involvement was "Multiplayer Jeopardy Online!" or "Acrophobia" (anyone remember those?) for a couple hours a week for a month or two. Not exactly Mr. Intarweb Society Supremo.

    There were repeated quotes from various people that he was such a nice guy and he helps people out and everyone loves and admires him and so on. It mentioned he's having some financial difficulties, but hey, who isn't these days? He spends a nontrivial amount of time doing something most people don't? So what? Doesn't nearly everyone? (Particularly everyone reading this right now. I'm looking at you, Gentle Slashdot Reader.) He works, he has a wife...let 'im have his play-time. Such was my reaction.

    Mind you, I have known someone who was truly consumed by this kind of thing; it was a freshman at my college back in '92-'93 (when I was a senior). The guy was clearly unprepared to live on his own effectively. Within a couple of months of the beginning of the year, he was pretty much a fixture in front of his computer, playing MUDs and ordering Domino's. I'm not sure he even attended any classes after awhile. So, clearly, this kind of thing can and does happen, but I by no means got the impression from the NYT article that this was anywhere near the case with this "The Deacon" fella.

    So what am I saying? Simply: No big deal. It's a good item to have in your bag of jokes and/or stories, Mr. Deacon. Something you can tell at barbecues or snicker about over beers with the guys. Move on.

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  11. Yeah, right by xihr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think people who claim they feel like they've been "raped" when they haven't actually been sexually assaulted need a refresher course on exactly what rape is.

    Substituting "I feel raped" for "My feeling have been hurt" is an exaggeration of unimaginable proportions, and only manages to make the person in question look foolish.

  12. Re:Morale of the story by xihr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Better yet, simply don't tell them what you'd rather them not know. (They may find out independently, but that's another story.) If you tell them something that you didn't want them to know and they publish it for the whole world to see, you've only yourself to blame.

  13. His real problem. by Mir322 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not staying anonymous.

    He's let a game (and its related interpersonal associations) ruin his ego, his financial well being, and general happyness.

    Maybe this is a no brainer. Maybe saying this is akin to saying, i told you so. Hell, call it a troll. But gee, you know...

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  14. The key point here by jtheory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and even though I wasn't having any fun

    This is the most important line in the post. Something is wrong when you're driven to keep going, but *you aren't having any fun anymore*.

    I have a personality type that makes this kind of addiction very easy. My first experiences with computer games were the early *text* adventures -- Adventure, Zork, and others (xyzzy, maze of twisty passages all different, etc.).

    Before I knew it, I found myself glaring red-eyed at the computer screen as the sun came up, surrounded by maps, notes, etc., feeling sick and aching all over. I wasn't playing because I was having fun -- it was frustrating as hell. I felt horrible. But I was going to figure out every last puzzle if it killed me. I felt like the game was a malevolent being fighting against me.

    Nowadays, I just don't start playing the games. I don't own any (though I did once spend a dozen hours or so honing winmine strategies before I realized what I was doing).

    I have similar rules in other aspects of my life. I never ever gamble (not even penny poker). It just sucks the fun out of it for me, because I feel like I have to win, and I can't enjoy the game.

    I was an athletic kid in school, but I ran track instead of playing basketball, or football, or any game like that where there's more personal interaction and physical contact. Yeah, you can get spiked or elbowed in a race, but running a good race involves self-control much more than exerting your will over the other runners.

    There isn't anything specifically wrong with playing a game for hours on end, especially a game where you're interacting with other live players, if you're enjoying it. It can be one form of social interaction, or just like watching TV but more interactive. It's when you're harming your own well-being (mental or physical) and you still can't stop that you should get a clue that something is awry.

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  15. 2 Simple Rules for Life by Synn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rule 1:

    If you're ever arrested for anything say the following 4 words to the police and only the following 4 words: I want my lawyer.

    Nothing else you say will help you, it will only hurt you.

    Rule 2:

    If a reporter wants to talk to you about anything only ever say the following 2 words: No comment.

    Anything else you say can be twisted into making it sound like you said whatever that reporter wants.