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Screenshots of Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Leaked

gorman writes "Screenshots of Apple's next major update to OS X, Panther (10.3), have finally been leaked to the web. For months very little has been known about Panther, with only several minor rumors here and there. These screenshots show off many new features, including the return of labels, a brand new Safari-like finder, and an interesting window management system called Exposé. In addition, the screenshots show off refined visuals and improvements to all of the included Apple applications, such as video support in iChat and enhanced spam filtering in Mail. While these screenshots show off a pre-release version of Panther, it's definitely interesting to see what Apple is working on! Steve Jobs will demonstrate Panther during his keynote this Monday at WWDC and will make it available to developers."

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  1. Re:Longhorn 2003 by gerbache · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it rather sad just how true that statement is. I have this sneaking suspicion that the OS X of today is the future of many operating systems, not just Windows. Oh well, I suppose that's a good thing, since at least it will hopefully drive development forward.

  2. Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixes? by yroJJory · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Improving the the capabilities of the spam filtering in Apple's Mail.app program is nice, but I wonder if they've fixed any of the *REAL* problems? There are so many problems that Macintouch has PAGES of reader reports of issues.

    Like, the fact that the application kills its own preferences if your drive runs out of space.

    Or the problem of attachments being destroyed when sent if they have a resource fork.

    I switched to Mail.app for a day, but switched back to Entourage when I discovered these serious issues, as well as the lack of interface behavior controls (like the fact that Mail.app automatically marks an email viewed in the preview pane as "read", when I don't want it to).

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  3. Metal Sucks. Aqua slightly better. by yroJJory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. I've had the same complaint ever since QuickTime 4 came out:

    * With these brushed-metal windows, you cannot tell which window is in front.

    I've closed so many windows I didn't intend to simply because I thought it was in the foreground when I hit Cmd-W.

    Why did Apple have to toss out all the UI lessons they'd learned since 1984?

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    Jory
  4. Re:"Desktop Experience" by cynical · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >Its a damned OS, its a TOOL.. its not some drug induced altered state of mind...

    You're partially right - it's an OS, but it's also a user interface, and all of the changes shown in the screenshots are UI changes. It may be jargon that reeks of marketspeak, but "experience" is actually a fairly useful way of thinking about how people work with UIs. It's more than file management and app launching, it's the utility of system alerts and messages, the clarity of the typeface, the ease with which the user understands what's going on, the myriad ways the user's time using the interface is helped or hindered by the UI design.

  5. Re:$$$$ Money ???? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ADC membership, by itself, is free. It's the premium options that cost money. So I suspect what you really meant is $0 for paying ADC members... ;-)

    Apple is giving all developers who attend the WWDC conference a free preview copy of Panther.

    I suspect, incidentally, that you're right. There's a load of comments about it being free because it's an "odd numbered release". Bollocks. 10.1 was free because 10.0 was barely usable, not because it was an odd number. Jaguar is a good, mature, stable OS, Apple doesn't have to compensate people for using it...

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  6. Re:Why doesn't Apple embrace open source fully ? by Kourino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They don't because they don't believe it will make them money. Seriously.

    Using GNOME or KDE in their next release would be a horrible idea for Apple. And here's why. ... this really isn't an attack on you or the GNOME/KDE teams. Some of this is going to seem harsh, but I'm stating my opinion. Please don't take it personally, or as a slam to KDE or GNOME, since I do actually like both of these projects, even though I don't think they (or Apple, for that matter) are the best thing since sliced neko bread.

    Apple already just recently (well, 10.0) totally changed their UI and user experience from what it had been for a decade. That pissed off a lot of hardcore old users. Apple doesn't need to go alienating their users again. (And no, I don't feel that the Aqua themes "count". They're pretty, but they're not "there", from my recollection.)

    Performance-wise? The most recent releases of GNOME and KDE felt slower on my 866 MHz i686 machine than 10.2 did on my 700 MHz PPC750. Apple really doesn't need their OS getting slower, especially on their low-end machines, which people here already bitch and taunt as being horribly underpowered.

    Finally ... what do you mean, exactly, by "little incompatibilities"? Are you throwing this out to make your post look balanced, or did you have something specific in mind? I couldn't think of anything off hand ... until I realized that switching to GNOME or KDE would likely mean GTK+ or QT, which would involve changing the entire desktop API for every Mac OS application. This is not! a "little" incompatibility. Making some sort of Cocoa wrapper would be a huge pain in the ass, no matter how good a coder you are. That would still be better than forcing every OS X developer to rewrite their application (again, if it used to be an old OS 9- program). This would be a huge waste of Apple's time and money and probably piss off their developers to no end.

    Really finally, now, as a matter of personal opinion, I do actually like the whole OS X UI system better than GNOME or KDE. The legions of rabid and not-so-rabid Apple loyalists would probably agree with me, since OS X probably at least tries to follow whatever Apple's UI standards are. Not only are GNOME and KDE "not Apple", but the UI experience is different. So I don't think Apple would garner support from their users by switching.

  7. Re:must upgrade? by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is this? Is the system software really changing that dramatically? What makes the older versions of X so hard to support?

    A quick answer: in the "Macintosh universe" (for lack of better word) it is much more common to purchase your OS as OEM than it is in the "Windows-Intel unverse". 100% of Macs are being sold with an OEM MacOS (even those that are sold with Linux pre-installed). I don't know the exact figures for x86 machines, but they are obviously nowhere near the 100% figure. If you are a Windows developer, the Windows 95/98 users are still an important client group for you. But if you are a MacOS developer, you don't pay much attention to the MacOS 8.1 users, since they are probably also stuck with pre-1998 machines, and if they didn't cough out money for a new machine in 5-6 years, they will probably neither cough out it for your application. On the other hand, every new Mac that was recently sold was also sold with a recent MacOS. So you don't have to worry, like your Windows counterpart, "is the market ready for a XP-only application". You KNOW that the market is ready for Jaguar-only apps - so why waste your time and energy for MacOS 9.x?