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Do Later LCDs Need Screen Savers?

bwdunn asks: "Do we need to run screen savers again to prevent the burn-in we saw on the very old CRTs? Dell's latest and greatest laptops, the Latitude D800 and Inspiron 8500 both suffer from horrible screen burn-in problems with burn-in visible after as little as 2 hours. Dell claims this is an industry wide problem. The high end displays from Apple also seem to have this problem. I have never seen this problem before 2002. Is this something new due to inferior LCD screen manufacturing compared to screens from just a few years ago?"

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  1. We've been observing this problem too by David+McBride · · Score: 5, Informative

    The local department has recently been replacing the CRT displays in the computing labs with LCDs as part of their rolling upgrade cycle. So that it's easier to distinguish between a working PC and a dead one by whether or not the login screen is showing, we turned off the screensaver -- thinking that ``there's no phosphor to get burned in.''.

    Doesn't appear to be true, sadly. A number of displays are now starting to get a burnt-in image of the login window.

    Time to update the login manager scripts with a small call to xscreensaver, methinks..

  2. The answer is in the fourms... by Sancho · · Score: 4, Informative

    The answer (at least for Dell) is in the forums that were linked to in the summary. Send it back. Get a new one. If the new one also burns in, do it again. Do it until you get an LCD that doesn't burn in. It's a major hassle, but it appears that all of their LCDs don't suffer from this problem, thus it's unlikely that "new" LCDs have this problem. Looks like a bad batch or poor construction somewhere in the laptop/LCD, since replacing the LCD will eventually get rid of the problem.

  3. Article (in German) with picture of burn-in by Lars+T. · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here. Picture after 15 hours of burn-in and 51 hours of uninterupted reconditioning.

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  4. Depends on how the display is made by Sunlighter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually it can be done either way. A liquid crystal, when powered, rotates the polarization of light 90 degrees. When unpowered it has no effect. So, a LCD display is made from two polarizers and a layer of liquid crystals. Consider this:

    • Horizontal polarizer + horizontal polarizer = transparent (white)
    • Horizontal polarizer + vertical polarizer = opaque (black)
    • Horizontal polarizer + liquid crystal + horizontal polarizer = black when powered, clear when unpowered
    • Horizontal polarizer + liquid crystal + vertical polarizer = clear when powered, black when unpowered

    Whether white or black is powered depends on the way the display is made.

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  5. Re:Turning monitor off by sigwinch · · Score: 4, Informative
    Many household devices today use more power when their state is changed than they would if they were just left on constantly.
    Wrong. The turn-on surge for all common household devices is a few times normal power, and only lasts for a fraction of a second. The energy cost of the surge is negligible.
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