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US Supreme Court Upholds CIPA

TheMatt writes "The US Supreme Court today has upheld CIPA, the law that required public schools and libraries to put internet filters on computers or lose federal funding. Quote: 'The court in a 5-4 decision ruled that the Children's Internet Protection Act does not violate the First Amendment, but that filters sometimes, do block informational Web sites.'" The decision will be posted on the US Supreme Court website later today. The case is United States v. American Library Association, 02-361. We had covered this story before.

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  1. How do you know you're filtered? by Dunedain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A huge problem with the law is that filters which don't tell you they're filtering are OK: if you're using a reasonably clever Google-filter, for example, you may never know that information has been filtered.

    Additionally, many methods of filtering infringe the copyrights of the original authors, or may if the MPAA lawsuit against the DVD bowdlerizers succeeds.
    Funny that we may have to hope for the MPAA to make filtering harder.

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  2. Go call your broker by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And buy shares in anybody producing internet filters - they've just gotten the Golden Ticket!

    First they've got a huge market that must, by law, use their product. Second, that product is painfully inadequate to perform the job it's asked to - hence a nice long development-release-fix cycle that should go on for years, fully funded via government mandate.

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  3. Re:Can they keep logs? by KludgeGrrl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is upsetting is that there has already been serious opposition to this law from librarians themselves -- who have argued that the filters block too many useful sites (and I imagine that they have indeed produced lists in support of their claims).

    It would be intersting to know who has been pushing for the ruling. Was it "concerned citizens" or companies that make filtering programmes?

  4. Kids section by bludstone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about just setting up a "kids section," With filters on those computers?

    The computer lab should be "policed" by the librarians anyways. Wandering around, leaning over people shoulders. Making sure thomas q pervert isnt masturbating in the library. If he is, call the cops and have him dragged off.

    I mean, its one thing to look at breast cancer treatment sites and another to look at big-tittied-lassies.com Wouldnt just seperating the sections be a perfectly fine solution? The kids could just ask the librarians for help if they reach a blocked site.

    Normally I would rage against something like this. But if you read the article, the supreme court's decision was based on the fact that librarians can shut off the blocker on request. As long as they dont ask "why?" it should be okay.

    Still.. It makes it difficult for people to do research on private topics :/

    I am conflicted.

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  5. Re:Can they keep logs? by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The supreme court overturns its decisions all the time. This is why anti-abortion people try to get them to hear another roe vs. wade type case all the time, to see if they'll overturn that decision.

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  6. Automatic Unblock by linuxwrangler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I find the blocking software providers a secretive and sleazy bunch and the blocklist rather suspect, I'm not sure that this law will be all that bad.

    The terminals I've seen at libraries require a card or login anyway. Since the law is aimed at kids, just issue adult/minor cards or IDs that are, by default, unrestricted or restricted. (I think that parents must sign for kids library cards anyway - minors can't sign legal documents promising to return the books - so determining who is a minor is just part of the process anyway.)

    Since adult logins are never blocked there should be no issue of embarassment over requesting removal of the filter. If a kid "needs" unfiltered access he can bring his parent to log in. It's sort of like an R rated movie.

    Sure, IDs or cards can be lost or stolen but they can also be deactivated. It seems that this would fulfill the requirement of the law in a nearly transparent way (of course I haven't read the actual law in detail so I could be wrong).

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  7. Open source solution? by PincheGab · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I agree in the spirit of the law (protect children), mainly because I am close to being a father myself, and what I can handle on the web a child certainly cannot. I think unrestricted access to the internet can be a dangerous thing for children, specially if unsupervised.

    My main objection is with the companies producing the stupid-assed filters and closed/encrypted blocked sites lists. Is it feasible to think that there could be an open source blocking software? Who would maintain the list of blocked sites? Whose moral standards would such a list enforce? How would categorization be done such that, for example, you could allow non-explicit sexual content (ie, educational and health sites), and not explicit content?

    In other words, is there a way to make this work somewhat well, now that the law passed the Supreme Court test?