optikz writes "Apple has just released Safari 1.0 and it is availlable via Software Update. This release is now out of the 'beta' stage. It is version 1.0 (v85)." Not much appears to have changed since the last beta. I just need to decide if it should replace Camino for me.
Nearly perfect timing, too. IE's gone, Safari's here... out with the old, in with the new.
Re:Good stuff
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cloudless.net
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I bet Apple already knew IE would be gone on Mac OS, before starting to develop Safari.
Cross-platform web design issue
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cloudless.net
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I think Safari will gain popularity quickly, I would like my web pages to look good in that browser. However I only have a Windows box, is there anyway I can see how my web pages look in Safari while I am running Windows?
Some stuff still needs fixin'
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The only problems I have with Safari are:
1) It does not render the Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2000 properly. This may just be because those Microsoft ass-clowns have coded it specifically for IE, it may not be Safari's fault.
2) One of my larger corporate clients uses some crap web proxy that Safari doesn't like-- http sites load okay, but https sites do not work at all. They don't even try to load. I dunno if there's some authentication issue or what, but I know all my settings are set properly, and everything authenticates fine for http. One of these days perhaps I'll steel myself to talk with one of the corporate help desk script monkeys and see if I can't find out what proxy it is so I can submit a bug report.
~Philly
Re:What was the default font before?
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switcha
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with all due respect, I don't think we are hanging onto serifs because of old rocks. It's all because of readability.
Other factors such as leading and acender/decender height have a huge impact, but none as great as serif/san-serif.
I too, have a degree in printing, and have had textbook after texbook after teacher beat me over the head with case studies in readability.
Especially that slab-serifs (where the serifs and bars have a minimal difference) are kings of readability.
This piece brings up anther interesting factor. Not only are serifs supposedly physically easier to follow in long text, but according to the piece, there is a cultural component as well.
I'm not sure how completely I buy that, as I have read texts citing all sorts of optical testing of jabber text and controls to ensure unfamiliarity. And serif comes out more readable. You can debate whether bylines, captions, or headlines should be serif or san, but try reading Moby Dick in Futura and then after your eyes stop cramping, we'll talk.
-- You know what?... A little club soda *did* get that out!
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Nearly perfect timing, too. IE's gone, Safari's here ... out with the old, in with the new.
I think Safari will gain popularity quickly, I would like my web pages to look good in that browser. However I only have a Windows box, is there anyway I can see how my web pages look in Safari while I am running Windows?
The only problems I have with Safari are:
1) It does not render the Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2000 properly. This may just be because those Microsoft ass-clowns have coded it specifically for IE, it may not be Safari's fault.
2) One of my larger corporate clients uses some crap web proxy that Safari doesn't like-- http sites load okay, but https sites do not work at all. They don't even try to load. I dunno if there's some authentication issue or what, but I know all my settings are set properly, and everything authenticates fine for http. One of these days perhaps I'll steel myself to talk with one of the corporate help desk script monkeys and see if I can't find out what proxy it is so I can submit a bug report.
~Philly
Other factors such as leading and acender/decender height have a huge impact, but none as great as serif/san-serif.
I too, have a degree in printing, and have had textbook after texbook after teacher beat me over the head with case studies in readability.
Especially that slab-serifs (where the serifs and bars have a minimal difference) are kings of readability.
This piece brings up anther interesting factor. Not only are serifs supposedly physically easier to follow in long text, but according to the piece, there is a cultural component as well.
I'm not sure how completely I buy that, as I have read texts citing all sorts of optical testing of jabber text and controls to ensure unfamiliarity. And serif comes out more readable. You can debate whether bylines, captions, or headlines should be serif or san, but try reading Moby Dick in Futura and then after your eyes stop cramping, we'll talk.
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