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Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo

prostoalex writes "JavaPro magazine published a wrap-up report on Java discussions at the recent JavaOne. If you missed JavaOne, the video Webcasts of McNealy, Schwartz, Gosling et al. are available from this site. The round table mentioned above gathered people from Sun, Oracle, Borland, Novell, Motorola and others. The discussion topics included: Java vs. NET, integration issues, the impact of open source and top problems that Java is facing today."

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  2. Re:One issue with Java vs. .NET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    uh... that would be gay. you should not need a whole new chip to run a language.

  3. #1 challenge? it doesn't solve the problem anymore by *weasel · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    java was created to be a write once, run anywhere solution. because of corporate politics and competition, it just doesn't pull it off.

    depending on your install base, it can sometimes get by, but more often than not, platform specific code, design, and testing is required - and that puts the kabosh on the development gains.

    and that's even ignoring the cost of supporting the various platforms VMs and the VM distribution problem on windows machines of late.

    (sun won its suit against microsoft that it was unfairly squeezing out the java vm - then promptly sued microsoft for posting the microsoft jvm on windowsupdate.com because the license from sun didn't explicitly allow that. they won the suit and for some time windows users just couldn't get their hands on a vm. and if that doesn't decimate any gains from using java, i don't know what does)

    nice idea, solid effort on the technological end -but it's going the way of betamax and solaris.

    --
    // "Can't clowns and pirates just -try- to get along?"
  4. Obligatory Slashdot comment on Java by oops · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Dude! Java sucks! Like, I downloaded Java in 1997 and my 133 Pentium ground to a halt. And it's not even open-source! PHP roolz!

    [just to save everyone else doing it]

  5. Re:Hey They Mentioned Me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    "I'm a full time VB programmer..."

    What the fuck are you doing here then? Go back to your MSDN and milk.

  6. Java works well in immature domains by lgordon · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Java keeps moving the target of what it does well. First it's going to replace windows. Then it was going to write once and run anywhere. Then it's really going to work in embedded systems. Now it's really for mission critical back end server stuff where a bunch of IT geeks are having to write code.

    When an immature domain pops up, Java is immediately the language that people think of because it's merely adequate at everything.

    What's next? Java is the language of choice of web services and ASP's? Java is the XML parser of choice?

    No wonder the job market sucks. No one paying the bills trusts any of the technology.

    Just my rant,
    Larry