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Zynot Foundation Forks Gentoo
deque_alpha writes "The Gentoo Linux distribution has been forked by a group of Gentoo developers and community members. This fork is being placed under the control of the non-profit Zynot Foundation, which will "hold the source code, trademarks, and any other intellectual property developed by and for its community." The goals of the fork include improving stability and cross-platform reliability to bring the Gentoo-developed technology to the enterprise and embedded arenas." Another reader points out Zack Welch's long article at Zynot.org on reasons for forking the Gentoo distribution.
yet more proof that open source people are in general on the emotional level of a 5 year old.
get a grip ok? successfull technology is built by people who can work with others. not people who are the best c coder or have the unix api memorized
Zonot Foundation, right? What a grumpy guy.
I joined the project as a businessman, like Dave Cinege, hoping to make some money. Well, to my credit, I didn't expect somebody to come around with $100,000 for me, but nevertheless, I was deeply offended when people told me that I didn't have the authority to change policy on bug reports (among other things). I got involved in a flame war on the gentoo-core mailing list, and was summarily dismissed from my status as a gentoo developer.
After a night of crying alone, I decided to write a 17 point document justifying my forking of gentoo, to give them what-for. Just to meet the 17 point requirement, I added not less than FOUR sections talking about who I am, where I came from, and what upsets me. I know people like to hear lots of whining.
Long story short, I'm tired of not being in charge. I'm tired of being told that I can't do whatever I want on somebody else's baby. I hope the world sees that I want to take Gentoo in the "right" direction though, and completely disregard my above whining. Thanks for reading the short version. Now go waste some time and read the long version, too.
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For those of you with any doubts, I am NOT Zack. Another Linux distribution can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it. Mandrake's rallying cry isn't "wwwaaaaahhhh!!! Redhat is fucked up!" Lindows was based on Debian (as have many other distributions) but it didn't get started by some pissed-off debian maintainer who got fed up because he wasn't allowed to make decisions that weren't his.
There's plenty of space in the pool for another player, though; if there's nothing like gentoo available for all those obscure platforms, Zack is more than welcome to make something like it.
My personal opinion, however, is that he's yet another whiny, embittered open source developer.
I totally agree with this post. I'm glad someone had the cojones to post it as parent. What kept me away from Gentoo was the politics involved and the arrogance of the userbase.
Gentoo just burst onto the scene and was all like LOOK WE'RE BIG AND FAT AND IN YOUR DUMB FACE and they just flat-out said "Hey we're just better than you are." Forum posts are ignored, questions go unanswered, and they basically made themselves look like the immature 12-year-old warez-d00d kiddie distribution.
Now we've got the Gentoo fanboy crew who refuse to accept the opinions of others and think they are the hottest thing on the block. These verbal ejaculations from these ignorant preteens about how great or l33t or super-awesome-gay their Linux is are the worst. SHUT UP, IT'S JUST A GOD DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM. Gentoo users are like the Jehoviah's Witnesses of the Linux community. Ask them, "Why did you choose Gentoo?" and they'll answer, "Oh, because it's better than RedHat/Debian/Slackware/Butterfinger McFlurry!" This is akin to the Jehoviah's at my front door telling me their God is better than my God and not being able to back it up. JESUS WILL SMITE YOUR ASSES TO HELL FOR BEING SUCH HOMOSEXUALS.
The point is, I don't believe Gentoo is a Real Linux. They don't have the "tried-and-true" feel of Slackware, nor do they have the dedicated userbase of Debian. I bet you dollars to doughnuts every "f1r5t p0s7" troll is some god damn hippy prepubescent script kiddie with his limp dick in one hand and a Gentoo CD in the other. Until Gentoo can learn to FUCKING GROW UP they will not get any respect from the Linux community.
Rant over. Karma to burn. Flame on.
Gecko may be dead as to KHTML as you say, but one could not have guessed this when Mozilla started.
Actually, after reading this in jwz's blog, I'd have to say it was pretty damn easy to guess what would happen to Mozilla when it first started out.
Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
* it used to be 1 question, who wants to talk to a smelly zealot anyways?
what a babbly cry-baby of a tosser.
I'm all for DR and not this wanker.
Lemme simplify.
1. I worked really hard.
2. My stuff wasn't good enough to take to Linuxworld.
3. I put all my excess boxes to work serving Gentoo stuff.
4. I cried.
5. I write like Steve Gibson without the colors. (!!I'm pattin' my own back so hard I need a entire Palmer College graduating class to keep my spine straight!! Are I not !!!SOMETHING!!!)
the whole point of creating gentoo was arrogance in the first place:
want to compile everything from source ?
use slackware, lfs, debian
want to use BSD ports ?
use BSD
after examining the gentoo init scripts , using the portage system for a while and having been hit my many of the gentoo bugs I can safely say that the developers are arrogant fools who produce an overhyped yet badly designed, underperforming distribution