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Law Professor Examines SCO Case

An anonymous submitter writes "This law professor from the University of California points out weakness in SCO's legal bluster, and further takes a poke at closed software, for those hungry for more SCO scraps. At the end, he references Slashdot for more info ('itself a demonstration of the power of dispersed individuals working together')."

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  1. /. must be getting to me... by usurper_ii · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Last night I dreamed that I got Knoppix to boot on my alarm clock. And what a nightmare because it probably would have been much easier to get IntyOS going...

    Mod me off topic, but damn it, I just had to share that.

    Usurper_ii

    1. Re:/. must be getting to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      When I was in college, I had my linux box act as an alarm clock -- I had a cron job start playing a CD (my soundcard was unsupported) at a time dependent on the day of the week (0800 classes MWF, 1000 classes Tues/thurs, quiet on sat/sun).

  2. Whos your daddy SCO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why am I your daddy?
    Because I did it to your momma - your momma - your momma was so sweet,SCO.

  3. Re:Law Professor Examines Own Face in Coke Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    public hair?

    Hmmm... ANd why incest? Yeeewww. Bring back the gay porn.

    Cowb Neal

  4. CHAT TIME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    Many users of this site's messageboards are posting links to http://nero-online.org/slashdot.php and making text based representations of a bird on a man's penis. Frankly, while I am pro-freedom, this type of photo sickens me. Could you please move the location of the bird page on your site to keep slashdot readers from seeing things that are completeley unrelated to computers and technology? I'm not asking you to remove the content, just to relocate it.
    FYI the text representation of the bird is:
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    with a link to the offensive site (http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/) underneath, these "Penis Birds" are posted by Penis Bird Guy, Penis Bird MAN and several other users.
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  5. Re:No Kidding? by ddew · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Thanks :) Never thought I'd find anyone on slash to share my opinion :P Pretty nice first post...

  6. More rejected stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The site's a little low on details and there's not a price listed, but now we can be total nerds in the comfort of our favorite vehicle with this device. It sports an Intel low-power 266mhz MX processor, an Intel Triton II TX mobo, PCMCIA slots, USB slots, CD-ROM or DVD-ROM, onboard sound, built-in GPS and a 15GB HDD. All in the space of a single DIN! They claim that they've got a fully-motorized in-dash touchscreen LCD in the works to mate up to this as well.

  7. Re:Oh my: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    9 out of 10 lawyers agree slashdot sucks ass. The 10th got his name posted on slashdot.

    There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's ass kissing.

  8. In a manner of speaking, you're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Read this through and you'll see the analogy I'm trying to draw here:

    One of CmdrTaco's greatest flaws is his lack of professionalism and common courtesy. He's generally blunt and rude...but he can be helpful once in a while. Of course, this puts him at a level consistent with normal /. users...but that's not what you want for the head of a website viewed by hundreds of thousands of people a day.

    Slashdot reminds me of the crap found in the old .com businesses. A couple of people with no real business skills or common courtesy create a product, without any real plan, hoping to succeed. For some reason, CmdrTaco did. Not having learned enough leadership lessons, he continues to be his old self, taking Slashdot wherever he wants, instead of where Slashdotters want it to go.

    To me...it's frustrating. Slashdot has so much
    potential. But CmdrTaco doesn't have the leadership to acheive it. He's stuck playing around with the moderation system, managing a horrible story selection routine, or criticizing people in his journal. Slashdot could be so much more. If he let go of his stalled vision of what Slashdot should be, and let people develop their own projects in Slash, Slashdot could be a blast. Remember the BBS's of ten years back? It was a place where a bunch of people who truly love computers hung out. You could chat, play games,
    download files, ASCII bomb each other..whatever. There was public forums that were controlled, and private forums that we had control over. Now what do we have today? About 15 crappy articles a day that only get accepted because they appeal to michael or timothy's insanely liberal bias, and journals where somebody posts a thought and we post replies. That's it.

    CmdrTaco has so many options staring him in the face to take Slashdot from a stalled mediocre site to a great geek hangout. Here's what I believe he should do.

    1) Act more as the owner/manager of Slashdot... instead of an egotistical coder in a basement who works on side projects. This means that he'll manage many projects simultaneously, instead of personally coding a few.

    2) Get better staff. Fund them by providing features Slashdotters want and will pay for. (Seeing stories 20 minutes early so you can catch the editor's mistakes is not a feature).

    3) Let go of his vision of what Slashdot should be, and openly let others help out

    4) Design a system, much like open source
    projects, that lets people design and develop their own additions to Slashdot. (CmdrTaco says he wants people to fix bugs and contribute to Slash...but why the hell would others do this if they know CmdrTaco will say "Idiot, your work is useless. We discussed this years ago. It doesn't fit with what we want.")

    5) Add extra areas...such as chat rooms, stupidly fun group games, better private options other than just journals....that give Slashdot more of a hangout feel rather than a newsy feel.

    Heh, I'm starting to sound like some annoying young business school graduate. "Now if CmdrTaco could proactively change his paradigm to better synergize this approach -- which I will call the B.E.T.T.E.R. -- he can utilize multitasking to provide revenue in a dispered/sharing system." But seriously...I just hate seeing Slashdot with so much potential. I know I could have a blast and find tons of friends here. But looking back at CmdrTaco's past - little common courtesy and his contept for ideas that aren't his own - , it's pretty certain Slashdot will remain mediocre
    and unprofessional.

  9. They're not but it's changing the rules a bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There's a parallel here that you might find interesting in this piece authored by another /. user who I will leave nameless.

    One of CmdrTaco's greatest flaws is his lack of professionalism and common courtesy. He's generally blunt and rude... but he can be helpful once in a while. Of course, this puts him at a level consistent with normal /. users... but that's not what you want for the head of a website viewed by hundreds of thousands of people a day.

    Slashdot reminds me of the crap found in the old .com businesses. A couple of people with no real business skills or common courtesy create a product, without any real plan, hoping to succeed. For some reason, CmdrTaco did. Not having learned enough leadership lessons, he continues to be his old self, taking Slashdot wherever he wants, instead of where Slashdotters want it to go.

    To me... it's frustrating. Slashdot has so much
    potential. But CmdrTaco doesn't have the leadership to acheive it. He's stuck playing around with the moderation system, managing a horrible story selection routine, or criticizing people in his journal. Slashdot could be so much more. If he let go of his stalled vision of what Slashdot should be, and let people develop their own projects in Slash, Slashdot could be a blast. Remember the BBS's of ten years back? It was a place where a bunch of people who truly love computers hung out. You could chat, play games,
    download files, ASCII bomb each other..whatever. There was public forums that were controlled, and private forums that we had control over. Now what do we have today? About 15 crappy articles a day that only get accepted because they appeal to michael or timothy's insanely liberal bias, and journals where somebody posts a thought and we post replies. That's it.

    CmdrTaco has so many options staring him in the face to take Slashdot from a stalled mediocre site to a great geek hangout. Here's what I believe he should do.

    1) Act more as the owner/manager of Slashdot... instead of an egotistical coder in a basement who works on side projects. This means that he'll manage many projects simultaneously, instead of personally coding a few.

    2) Get better staff. Fund them by providing features Slashdotters want and will pay for. (Seeing stories 20 minutes early so you can catch the editor's mistakes is not a feature).

    3) Let go of his vision of what Slashdot should be, and openly let others help out

    4) Design a system, much like open source
    projects, that lets people design and develop their own additions to Slashdot. (CmdrTaco says he wants people to fix bugs and contribute to Slash...but why the hell would others do this if they know CmdrTaco will say "Idiot, your work is useless. We discussed this years ago. It doesn't fit with what we want.")

    5) Add extra areas...such as chat rooms, stupidly fun group games, better private options other than just journals....that give Slashdot more of a hangout feel rather than a newsy feel.

    Heh, I'm starting to sound like some annoying young business school graduate. "Now if CmdrTaco could proactively change his paradigm to better synergize this approach -- which I will call the B.E.T.T.E.R. -- he can utilize multitasking to provide revenue in a dispered/sharing system." But seriously...I just hate seeing Slashdot with so much potential. I know I could have a blast and find tons of friends here. But looking back at CmdrTaco's past - little common courtesy and his contept for ideas that aren't his own - , it's pretty certain Slashdot will remain mediocre
    and unprofessional.

  10. You paid $$ to post THAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    LLAMA

  11. Re:I doubt they're going to win. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Right. And then the terrorists have won.

  12. Re:No Kidding? by notque · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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  13. Re:I doubt they're going to win. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A helpful note to those who would reflexively mod an unpopular viewpoint as insightful. Please have a look at the user's other posts before doing it. This guy is clearly a MS astroturfer. Please stop modding his shit up.

  14. Re:I've said mostly it all. by why-is-it · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Almost perfect. You only forgot a couple of things:
    * a reference to Natalie Portman
    * some action involving hot grits and person "J", who may or not be Natalie Portman
    * a goatse link
    Apart from that, you have pretty much mastered /.
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    *** Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?
  15. [OT] /. Hate Crime Policy? by bayofpigs · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Apparently we have a case of an immature individual committing an act of anti-semitism, illegal in the US, where this site is hosted and read a lot, and in Europe, where it's read a lot, too. CmdrTaco, the elders: are you going to do something about this individual and his petty agenda? I believe we don't deserve to see racial hatred nick above a message. Isn't the user in violation of /. policies? I'll watch this nick's posts, if it doesn't C&D will refer this to the Defamation League. (Also, if the e-mail works, hotmail should shut down their account as well.)

    --
    Should computers be able to parse the phrase "police police police police"?
  16. Re:closed makes it easier to hide patent infringme by m1chael · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    mr wonka makes the oompa loompas write their own code.

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    I know you are psychotic, but please make an effort.
  17. Re:We've got grounds for a lawsuit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Not to mention he's kidding himself. Slashdot only accepts individuals who don't rock the boat. If you generally tow the party line you will be moderated up and people will see your comments, if you dissent or voice an unpopular opinion you will be moderated down and generally punished for not going along with the herd. It's quite a fascinating trait of "blogs" as I suppose they're now called. Hmph, who am I kidding though. The karma whores have known this for years yet nobody seems to really want to acknowledge such a touchy subject.

  18. Re:No Kidding? by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Welcome to my friends list L. VeGas

  19. Re:No Kidding? by GnarlyNome · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Shure it's not agore reinventing the internet?

    --
    Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock. Will Rogers
  20. Give credit where credit is due. by jbn-o · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The professor's article consistently fails to give credit where credit is due. "Linux" is not an operating system and it never was. Linux is a part of an operating system called a kernel (which acts as a bookkeeper managing the resources of a computer so applications can share those resources without conflict). It's fair to credit the major chunks of an operating system; GNU and Linux are both valuable chunks. It's also less confusing to the reader if one refers to the union of the GNU operating system with the Linux kernel by mentioning both parts (hence the term "GNU/Linux"). For the FSF's take on this, please read their essay which also has a link to a FAQ on this issue.

    Also, the article inappropriately and inaccurately attributes the concept of copyleft to the Open Source movement. Copyleft, to quote the FSF, is "a general method for making a program free software and requiring all modified and extended versions of the program to be free software as well". This concept and the term was invented by Richard Stallman, father of the Free Software movement. Stallman started GNU and the Free Software Foundation over a decade before the Open Source movement came along. He also defined the need for software freedom, something the Open Source movement eschews.

    Finally, it would be nice if the professor clarified that the term "free" has multiple meanings in English and that the meaning which is most important for this discussion is the one referring to certain freedoms, not price. The "free" in "free software" has to do with the freedoms to share and modify software. The freedoms of free software are a big part of why the GNU/Linux system (and other free software systems) are worth using.

    I hope the professor will find the time to correct the errors in his article.

    1. Re:Give credit where credit is due. by jbn-o · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      So far all of SCO's claimed violations are related to code in the Linux kernel. Therefore GNU has nothing to do with this lawsuit.

      However, this Slashdot thread is discussing Professor Chander's article on the issue which repeatedly makes reference to "Linux" as an operating system:

      [...] The suit arose because IBM has made a strong push towards using the ever more popular Linux operating system for computers. [...]
      [...] Then, about a decade ago, a young Finn named Linus Torvalds introduced an operating system (named Linux, after its creator) that did some of what UNIX did. [...]

      I am addressing his misuse of the term "Linux" which robs GNU of any credit at all. Your critique about SCO's claims should be directed to the professor because he clearly refers to the entire OS. The professor's reference is incorrect and does not indicate Professor Chander is cognizant of what Linux actually is--a part of the whole, something that deserves recognition, but not to the exclusion of other major pieces of the system (of which GNU is clearly one such piece).

      To say GNU "has nothing to do with this lawsuit" is quite wrong. The license under which Linux is licensed came from the freedom-minded concerns of the GNU project (the GNU General Public License). It's great to be thankful for the software, but don't forget the community that grew up around the freedoms of free software. The GNU project proved we can all work together leveraging the power of a copyright regime against the proprietors that want our systems to vanish is also quite an accomplishment.

      I'm very grateful to GNU for their software contributions, but to say that GNU and Linux are the only important components of the O.S. is the height of silliness.

      Which I never claimed, I said they were both valuable chunks of the system. I am glad you chose to include GNU in your list of contributors. I hope whatever components you select as major regularly includes GNU. I happen to agree with the GNU project's FAQ on this matter. Thanks for recognizing the GNU project's contribution!

  21. Re:I doubt they're going to win. by psavo · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Try getting a patch without review to the vanilla tree.. :)

    You say vanilla but I expand vanilla into 2.5 as well. Recently a pci_for_each_dev macro went away in a 'puff' without any prior notice from Linus. You can read some grumble from Dave Jones' diary (5th June 2003).
    Check following code:
    pci_for_each_dev(pdev_sb) {
    if(pci_match_device(amd_sb_tbl, pdev_sb) != NULL)
    goto found_sb;
    }
    vs.
    while((pdev_sb = pci_find_device(PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, pdev_sb)) != NULL) {
    if(pci_match_device(amd_sb_tbl, pdev_sb) != NULL)
    goto found_sb;
    }
    Like WTF??
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