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Netscape 7.1 Released

Phil writes "Netscape has just released the eagerly-awaited Netscape 7.1 (previously known by its codename, 'Buffy') for Windows, Mac OS and Linux. The new version is based on Mozilla 1.4, which is due out later today. Netscape 7.1 features many improvements over 7.02 including even better CSS support, spam filters, find-as-you-type, automatic image resizing, more customization via about:config, Web development tools, Palm synchronization and more. Plus, for the first time, ChatZilla (Mozilla's IRC client) is included in the full install. More information can be found at Netscape Browser Central and in this MozillaZine article. The release is available from Netscape's download page, via FTP or on CD."

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  1. Re:How does mozilla handle old caches? by Acidangl · · Score: 5, Informative

    shift click reload, pulls a new version the page

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  2. Mozilla 1.4 by jasondlee · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mozilla 1.4 is out too. jason

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  3. Re:Netscape? by myawn · · Score: 5, Informative
    The 'advantage' of the Netscape version is that it hides some of Mozillas pop-up blocking features, because otherwise it would interfere with AOLs preferred method of annoying their users.

    There may be other features that are hidden or disabled as well, but that's enough for me to go with the Mozilla flavor.

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  4. 1.4 is already out, just not on the web pages yet by SeanTobin · · Score: 4, Informative
    The new version is based on Mozilla 1.4, which is due out later today
    If you are a savy ftp digger, know a savy ftp digger, or can follow this link you can get it right now... before its slashdotted :)
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  5. Re: load by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A reload that doesn't reload everything is very useful if you don't want to spend time reloading all the graphics on a page too. On a page like the /. front page, the difference on a slow line can be 3 seconds versus 30 seconds.
    It's also useful if a page is incomplete.

    More of interest with the Netscape release is

    a) What has changed from the previous version of Netscape, and
    b) What has changed from the corresponding version of Mozilla that it's built on.

    If it's just adding the same AOL add-ons (or should I say ad-ons?) to a newer version of Mozilla than before, I'd say move on, there's nothing to see here.

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  6. Re:It just may make me switch back from IE by Planesdragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Press F11 in Mozilla 1.4, and you get a full screen, just like IEs.

    Better, actually, as the address bar is still there. :)

    Moz's (and NS's) form function is great. Different from IE's, but still great.

  7. Re:Why? by edwdig · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Executives might be willing to try Netscape, but not Mozilla, due to name recognition.

    2) Mail client can check AOL accounts & Netscape webmail accounts

    3) Integrated AIM. There's integrated ICQ too, but it's worthless as it uses the same UI as AIM (i.e. no single message mode).

    4) Spellcheck (yes it's available as an addon to Mozilla)

    5) Java and the most popular plugins are included. So it's easier for the average person to set up.

    6) Probably not the case on this release due to simultaneous releases, but in the past, Netscape took stable Mozilla branches and did futher bugfixes before releasing, resulting in a better product.

    I'd use Netscape over Mozilla if they'd just leave in the "Block Images from Server" option in Netscape.

  8. Re:Netscape? by uslinux.net · · Score: 4, Informative

    Netscape has SNS support for AOL/Netscape/Compuserve users. SNS passes the AOL login to sites which need to authenticate - sort of a "single sign-on for the web". Very cool if you're an AOL user.

    Mozilla adds popup blocking support.

    I haven't tried the new Mozilla or Netscape yet, but in using Mozilla 1.4a vs. Netscape 7.0 on Solaris 8 Mozilla wins hands down. Netscape will take several seconds to regain any control quite often, and the integrated AIM client just hangs for 10 seconds or so before (slowly) responding. Those sort of things may be fixed in Netscape 7.1, but I haven't tried it yet...

  9. Re:I'll continue to use Mozilla by kelnos · · Score: 5, Informative
    To the average user netscape and IE are the only two browsers in existance.
    i would venture to say that the average user is even unaware of netscape these days. i'm a university student - i find that an interesting perspective since most of the people here get a new computer to bring with them to college. back when i started 4 years ago i saw netscape all over. now most of the 1st- and 2nd-years i know have their fresh windows installs and never bother to download netscape (4.x or 7.x) because IE is fine for their purposes.

    there is the random anomalous person i see using netscape 4.x (almost always not on windows). i don't know anyone using netscape 7.x. fortunately most of the more tech-savvy people i know are using mozilla (or i gently recommend it every now and then).

    on a related note, why use netscape 7 over mozilla? perhaps the integration is a little better, but i don't see anything essential in netscape7 that i can't get out of mozilla. plus with mozilla i get much more frequent releases and the option to grab a nightly or build my own (granted these last two options don't interest that many people). as an added bonus you lose the "netscape activation" and all that bundled AOL crap.
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  10. Re:How does mozilla handle old caches? by mobets · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find the prefbar handy for such things. It has a Clear Cache button. The newer versions even have checkboxes for turning caching off.

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  11. Linux Users Get the Shaft on this release. by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the Release notes, Linux users need to be aware of the following:

    - Pages with Flash will, in worst cases, crash or hang your browser.
    - Netscape will hang if a Flash plugin tries to play audio and the audio device is already in use
    - Flash may crash with Exported X Display
    - Java is not included with the Linux installer for Netscape 7.1. Download Java version 1.4.2 or later at the Java web site
    - You may encounter problems if you install Netscape in a root user environment then run as another user.
    - Loading a page that contains a Flash plugin may cause Netscape to lock up if you are using an audio application.

    Everyone else need to be aware of the following:

    - For security reasons, Netscape does not allow connections to certain ports. To override this on a per-port basis, add a comma separated list of ports to defaults/all.js
    - POP email becomes unusable if the profile is stored on a network drive.
    - Stll no NTFS Support
    - Netscape does not warn the user of a low disk space condition.
    - Netscape may temporarily hang during LDAP autocomplete if network connectivity is broken.
    - Do not share a profile between Netscape and Mozilla browsers. Doing this can lead to unpredictable results, which may include loss of Search settings and preferences and unchecked growth of the Bookmarks file (large enough to freeze your system).
    - When visiting a SSL enabled site, the lock icon will take on a yellow background, and will not indicate the strength of the SSL encryption used, whether it is 40 bit, 56 bit, or 128 bit.

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    1. Re:Linux Users Get the Shaft on this release. by Malc · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Stll no NTFS Support"

      Netscape/Mozilla do a lot, but I don't think this should be on the feature list. That's up to the OS.

      Hmmm, on second thoughts, perhaps you meant NTLM.

    2. Re:Linux Users Get the Shaft on this release. by BZ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Every single Flash issue you list is a bug in the Linux version of the Flash plugin....