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Regulatory Fees on the 802.11 Broadcast Spectrum?

Demerara asks: "I live in the Caribbean where I am putting together a business plan for a WISP on St. Lucia. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the St. Lucian National Telecomms Regulatory Commission here licenses and charges fees for 2.4Ghz spread spectrum applications. It's nearly US$400 to apply and, get this, nearly US$800 per link, per *year*. This blows the economics of a WISP out of the water. I may be reading the laws and regulations wrong but I don't think so. For example - they even charge an application fee and an annual license for the 'Family Band' walkie-talkies - look in the fees PDF. I am attempting to find out the following: what international agreements govern spectrum management; what international agreements govern licensing of WiFi or 802.11; and finally, are there any Slashdot readers out there who live in countries where 802.11 technology is also licensed or heavily regulated? The ITU website doesn't seem to answer these questions or, to be fair, I cannot come up with the keywords to find the answers. I'd love to hear from others who use or operate 802.11 under less than 'free' regulatory regimes."

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  1. Some Countries are unclear on the concept. by BigFire · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When ever they see even a way of squeezing a buck out of whatever you do, they'll go for it. This has the effect of driving business from even visiting the place in the first place.

    Well, one of the benefit of sovereignity is the ability to print your own money, hope someone else is dumb enough to actually take it.

  2. What you have to realize, by mindstrm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    especially in small countries, is that the government can and do control everything. They can regulate spectrum how they want, and USE how they want.

    Some places even say "You can't use 2.4Ghz for internet" or "providing internet in any way is forbidden unless you are the national ISP" .. etc....

    So you might be screwed.

    The upside, is you can bribe.

  3. Re:Not to be facetious by natet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think what he may be looking for is whether or not the local laws violate any international agreements that the country may have signed.

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  4. Different way 2 make money & get Govt on your by adzoox · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If that's true, then why don't you just get a signal sniffer and turn everyone in that has microwaves, 2.4Ghz, & 5Ghz spread spectrum cordless phones. Help your government collect fines.

    If you DO have to pay for such a liscense, turn in a few governing officials for using these "waves"

    I remember IBM made an interface not long ago that just attached to your modem port and used the same technology as a 900Mhz phone (pre 802.11b days). Who's to say what ANYONE at ANY given time is doing with their lines or those unrestricted airwaves?

    I also recall that France had a problem with Apple's Airport when it first came out, and the last Airport Extreme firmware update addressed a lot issues specifically for France. So, you may want to see what the French object to as a place to start.

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  5. Protection of Govenment Sponsored Monopolies by bladernr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you look deeper, you may discover that the govenment is protecting an [in-efficient] monopoly.

    For instance, many countries disallow consumer VoIP usage (India, for instance, last time I checked). The reason is that their big, government controlled international phone carrier (BSNL) makes most of its profit from international calls. Government enterprises are protected by the government through a system of regulations, leading generally to higher prices and lower service all around.

    Maybe the government is protecting a government ISP or wireless provider. Yes, it could be mobile phone protection; many government regulators don't notice a different between GSM, 3G and 802.11b/g.

    To get around the licensing, you may can convince/bribe some government minister that you won't be competing with the protected enterprise. Otherwise, maybe you can take your case to the public and hope for a rules change. No matter what, changing protectionist regulations is a nightmare. Just ask Europe how easy it would be to get France to consider dropping the CAP and going for free-market food-production.

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  6. Common problem by smallpaul · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Carribean countries (and probably a lot of development countries) tend to think about income in the short-term. They don't think about the industries they are strangling. It is also common (still!) for them to award complete monopolies on technologies in exchange for cash. Consider the sad state of the Barbadian telecoms "industry".

  7. I grew up in Jamaica and by Brigadier · · Score: 4, Insightful



    there are quite a few laws governing any sort of braodcast, but there is no one to police it. and If you did get cought a US $50 would paysomeone off. I know this sounds bad but it's true. Most third world contries dont have the ifrastructure to manage stuff like this. So why do they make such laws to gouge anyone who tries to do something that woudl better the community.

  8. Your business is in the government's best interest by Rimbo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What your business doing represents a win-win scenario for the government of St. Lucia. Show the government how your business will make their jobs and lives easier and better. They may even become one of your better investors. I am sure you will be able to work a way around this regulatory snag, or have it deregulated.

  9. Bullshit question by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Most nations consider their telecommunications spectrum to a natural national resource the same as public lands, airspace, coasts, mining, etc. Indeed at one time the US licensed on the basis that "aether" was a physical medium.

    You're proposing a business built on using the publics property - their radio frequencies. Why shouldn't they expect to get back return on their property?

    In many countries operators are required to give back in return via community-interest programming, being requisitioned in times of emergency, providing other services. Different countries prefer a straight licensing fee: Pay to use the medium or get shut down. Most use some combination as does the USA.

    However your asking on /. for an interpretation of St. Lucia law is absolutely ludicrous. Pay for competent local legal advice and don't go asking the geeks for what most of them know little about: International telecommunications law and specifically St. Lucia law.

    Why does /. post these garbage questions every so often anyhow? Raise pageviews? It's gotta be obvious few if any of the readers here will have the requisite knowledge, hell half are probably unaware there is non-US law anywhere.

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