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Corbis Sues Amazon for Copyright Infringement

Gedvondur writes "The story ran in the WSJ today, that the Gates-owned image company, Corbis, is suing Amazon.com for copyright violations (PDF link). Apparently the suit was without warning to Amazon. Amazon will use the DMCA to defend itself. Link goes to copy of the WSJ article on Corbis's site."

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  1. PDF?? by The+Bungi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a link to news.com. Give Google news a shot, the piece is being carried by just about everyone.

  2. Re:Since nobody gets it.. by DMDx86 · · Score: 3, Informative

    DMCA == copyrights, not patents

  3. Some hints.... by David+Hume · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm not sure, but here are some hints.

    The CNet article explains:

    The complaint accuses Amazon of vicarious infringement for allegedly allowing its "trusted retailers" to offer Corbis images through its site.

    "Amazon has failed to effectively supervise and control the infringing conduct of the supplier defendants," the suit says.


    What are the requirements of the Amazon "trusted retailer" program? Are there any requirements that would either: (a) impose a duty on Amazon to supervise its third party sellers; or (b) put Amazon on notice of copyright wrongdoing by same? (Such notice may then create a duty to supervise.)

    Further, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reportsreports:

    The suit also alleges that the defendants are violating Seattle-based Corbis' copyrights by including images on Amazon's Web site to entice buyers to purchase the posters and other products.


    While Amazon may (or may not) be liable for the items third parties sell through its website, perhaps Amazon is responsible for the images that it allows to be posted on its website. In other words, perhaps Amazon is the "author" of its website, and thus strictly liable for any copyright infringements published therein.

    The Seattle Post-Intelligencer article goes on to state:

    Corbis attorney Dan Donlan said the company sued first because the "acts by Amazon were a little more blatant than what we would see in other circumstances."


    I'm not sure what these "little more blantant" acts were. Again, perhaps the publishing of the copyrighted images on the website itself.
  4. Re:Microsoft is above the law. by garyok · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, there was that thing with STAC about on-the-fly compression for hard drives. They did end up in court and they lost, owing STAC $120M. They got $14M back in counter-suit, but they were definitely found guilty of patent infringement.

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  5. Re:First PDF Sucks Post by Jotham · · Score: 5, Informative
    This isn't Amazon but someone with an Amazon merchant account. Anyone can sign up and use it.

    So while they have a case against the person selling the photos I don't think they have one against Amazon itself (unless it was made aware of the fact and failed to take action - which is not the case).

    This case is akin to charging a newspaper with theft because someone advertised something that turned out to be stolen in the trading post section or pimping because of the classified section.

    The only reason Amazon is the target is because it has more money.

  6. Re:Jesus Christ by AvitarX · · Score: 4, Informative

    The DMCA has to do with Amazon trying to be considered a service provider so that they can have immunity.

    I think it is very relavent how that distinction is drawn personaly.

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  7. No acrobat? by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Re:Fair use possibilities by odin53 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If Corbis didn't get the WSJ's permission, they would almost definitely be infringing. Section 107 is the general statutory fair use provision, your choice of statute is correct. But they copied the entire article -- big no-no for fair use -- and they're doing it for purposes arguably much more commercial than noncommercial (the fact that this article is in a very recent issue of the WSJ doesn't help in this regard, and of course neither does its appearance on Corbis's corporate website). Those two things together are probably deadly, at least with non-digital stuff. The seminal case I'm thinking of -- American Geophysical Union v. Texaco -- involved photocopying complete journal articles for distribution among the scientists at Texaco, and Texaco lost. Corbis's PDF wouldn't be much different.

    This minimal bitrate fair use idea is interesting, though. I've never heard of this argument winning. Do you have any cites? At any rate, the quality of the PDF isn't very important. In the past, direct reproduction of copyrighted material wasn't very good by nature, but unauthorized copies were still infringing. It shouldn't really be different now, at least for texts. I can definitely think of fairuse arguments for minimal bitrate MP3s, but I'm not so sure they'd win (which is why I'd love to read an opinion that thought otherwise).

  9. Re:Corbis is Crap by mph · · Score: 4, Informative
    All their uses seem to be commericial. The closest I could come to my needs was to specify that I intended to put it up in the lobby of my business.
    At present, if you go to www.corbis.com and select "Photography -> Personal Use", it appears that you can get two photos for 8 bucks.
  10. Re:A good thing in the DMCA? by cait56 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Depending on how the material was actually framed, you might or might not get away with claiming that Amazon was acting solely as a service provider.

    But even promoting material, and displaying it in an integrated fashion is far from "publishing". If it were every bookstore owner would be a "publisher".

    Would anyone expect a book store owner to validate that the purported author of each book had not engaged in plagarism? Why should we expect Amazon to do something that we would not expect a bricks and mortar book store to do?

    Even a publisher is entitled to some presumption that an author has the right to sell what they are offering.

    Conspicuously absent from the charges is any basis to believe that Amazon acted irresponsibly, or was negligent in allowing these sites to exist. What were they supposed to do, conduct an image search for all visual material offered for sale?

  11. Encryption? by poptones · · Score: 2, Informative
    the "copy protection" is not "encryption." It's a big CORBIS watermark that can be removed in photoshop. Essentially "removing copy porotection" means, at worse, retouching the photos using any easily obtained, commercial or GPL'd, image editing application.

    In this case I'm not even so sure of that since you can buy access to the corbis site for a relatively modest fee (it's a few hundred clams, intended for professionals). From there you can download the "unprotected" images in very large (~2000 x5000 pixels) format.

  12. Here's the drill . . . by werdna · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are guilty of infringement when you, yourself, reproduce, distribute or make derivative works without consent, unless certain defenses apply (fair use, first sale, more money than the plaintiff to defend yourself, etc.).

    You may also be guilty of infringement if you contribute to another person's infringement (think "aiding and abetting"), or if you have a master-agent relationship with the infringer. However, you are not responsible under these rules all the time. As a threshold matter, you are never responsible unless the primary individual is actually guilty of an infringement (that is, you can assert all of his defenses). Also, both for contribution and vicarious infringement, you generally have to have a guilty state of mind, often requiring, at least, imputed knowledge of the direct infringement. For contribution, there is also a number of other rules, such as the modern version of the Supreme Court's Sony "substantial noninfringing use" test, whereby you are off the hook if the technology is capable of a substantial noninfringing use, except in cases where the defendant's corporate name ends in "ster."

    When the Church of Scientology sued Netcom for contributing to the infringements of its customers, Netcom prevailed, as I recall on summary judgment, by pointing out that it had no reason to know of the infringement, and thus could not be liable for contribution. This District Court opinion was later codified in the DMCA "internet provider" safe harbor rules. Note that whether or not the DMCA gives Amazon a defense, Amazon can always fall back on general rules of contribution, including Netcom.