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High Speed Travelator

Anonymous Award writes "Remember those old Isaac Asimov tales of cities of the future, where everybody walked along on moving sidewalks, sometimes clear across a country? Today's airport travelators have always been disappointingly pale imitations of these, but now in Paris we may be seeing the true birth of this wonderfully dangerous mode of mass transportation. Its already as fast as a bus, but when they can crank them up to motorway speeds... well, lets just say this may have a better chance of having cities designed around it than certain other recent innovations."

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  1. The Roads Must Roll by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 4, Informative

    See also The Roads Must Roll; Robert Heinlein's book based upon moving roads and what happens when the guys who maintain them go on strike ...

  2. Re:You know... by archeopterix · · Score: 5, Informative
    When it gets up to a certain speed, the wind resistance against your body will be greater than the friction of the belt against your feet, and you will cease to move forward...
    Now this should look funny. But if you enclose the belt in a tube, with air moving with the speed of the belt (either artificially propelled or just "pulled" by the belt), the wind resistance becomes less of a problem.
  3. This travelator is a lot of fun by James+Durie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I went Paris for the weekend in March and we went through Montparnasse one day and went on this travelator.

    They have guys watching to stop certain people getting on, I have heard they have had to pay out for injuries to some people.

    First it accelerates you to 9kph then it is exactly like a normal travelator only much faster.

    I loved it.

    The only problems are the acceleration and deceleration phases. It's very bumpy. You have to hold on to the rail. If they can fix those aspects these things will start appearing in airports everywhere.

  4. Bah! They've done it before. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's not really a big innovations. The French did it 103 years ago, during the 1900 exhibiton. A rolling sidewalk was running along the exhibition and was whisking visitors at about 8 km/h. It was composed of two side-by-side rolling sidewalks one going at half the speed as the other.

    If you ask me, this was a much better design than the neck-breaking jallopy installed in Montparnasse Station...

    They also experimented some 30 years ago with one that was shaped like an integral sign; instead of a rubber plate, there were solid plates which slide sideways at the end, effectively yielding a slower speed but without the jarring hells-on-wheels acceleration.

  5. Re:Transition by tfischer · · Score: 4, Informative

    >>It seems to me the best solution to this is to have "lanes" in the walkway.

    In fact, this is exactly what they have in Paris. The high-speed travelator was put in between two other standard moving walkways. One of the standard walkways goes in the opposite direction, and the other lets you move along at 3km/h. So pedestrians do have a choice between the 9km/h lane, the 3km/h lane, or the "old fashioned" 0km/h walkway.

    The only thing I don't like about the highspeed walkway is the fact that it is only running during the workday, Mon-Fri. There were enough people who were falling on it that they had to employ people to stand at both ends of the thing to make sure that users don't hurt themselves...

    tom

  6. Moving rollers are a marginal solution by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    There have been many attempts to solve the speed transition problem for moving sidewalks, going back to the Paris Exposition of 1900. The usual idea is to have a speed transition between two conveyor belts, and the usual problem is to avoid someone getting caught or tripped at the transition point.

    The Loderway Accelerating Walkway, circa 1998, used multiple belts at different speeds. The transitions between belts involved a 5mm drop and small-diameter end rollers, instead of a transition plate. That was probably the simplest solution to the problem. Two systems were installed in Australia, field tests were claimed to be successful, but the manufacturer no longer seems to be around.

    NKK (yes, the zipper company) and Mitsubishi have both built prototype "accelerating moving walkways", but neither system seems to have been installed more than once. NKK's system involves expansible plate-type steps that become longer in the high-speed section. The Mitsubishi system works by turning a corner, so that a series of short wide plates transform into a series of long narrow plates. Both of these systems avoid difficult transition points, but are complicated and expensive throughout the whole length of the system. The Loderway and Paris systems have transitions, which adds risk, but the long section is just a plain belt, so the cost of long systems is manageable.