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Can Open Source Save Hardware?

Culexus writes "Tom's Hardware has a interesting story about Open Source saving the hardware industry. Pretty good read all in all. Hopefully chip makers and vendors won't have to bend to the iron might of Microsoft any longer." Some good comments on how early-adopters and enthusiasts are being marginalized by the industry, too.

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  1. Re:If only... by Ruie · · Score: 5, Informative
    It actually is possible.


    See, for example, www.opencores.org.

  2. Re:If only... by MonMotha · · Score: 5, Informative

    Open Hardware Project
    Enjoy. Most of it's still rather raw, and most of it's based off m68k, so don't expect to run "real" linux on it (uClinux is often the objective though).

  3. Open Specs + Good Hardware = Market Winner by listen · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll tell you what pisses off the vast majority of hardware companies:

    If a significant number of them act as their customers would like, they will only be able to compete on hardware.

    What hardware vendors *should* do is open up the specs to their hardware. If they are especially competitive, fund the development of open source drivers.

    The fact is that hardware with well defined and open specs works brilliantly in linux and the BSDs. Thats because the drivers are generally better written, usually because the drivers can share infrastructure and code from drivers from similar hardware, and these drivers are often written by the same people.

    Hardware vendors who do not open their specs or write drivers for Linux are writing themselves out of the future.

    If a driver is accepted into the mainline kernel, and has an appreciable userbase, its very unlikely that there will be a lot of tech support issues - IF the hardware isn't flaky.

    And thats what they hate. A huge amount of vendors make *really* bad hardware. If it becomes known that a bit of hardware works well in linux, more people buy it. As Linux market share increases, *this* PR ( the hardware is actually *good* and *works*) will take over from the MS crap ( the hardware company has some agreement with MS that says *nothing* about the quality of the hardware).

    I know which kind of PR I take more seriously.

  4. Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't link to Tom's Hardware anymore Slashdot. This past week they threatened to sue AMDMB.com for defamatory comments.

    http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID =243

  5. Tom(and VA) sunk themselves by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative

    In other words, what really bugs Tom's Hardware is that nobody cares about Tom's Hardware any more.

    Yeah, and guess why- every time you went and looked at Tom's Hardware, the information and reviews were months old, or worse. I was continually frustrated, while shopping for PC components, at how out-of-date THG was- so I simply stopped bothering to look at their site.

    THG should have stuck to what they were most useful for- a place to learn about PC technology. Not a lets-run-some-benchmark-scripts-with-different-vid eo-cards. THG has turned into what I call "two guys in a dorm room who have a hardware review site". Unfortunately, that market is a dime-a-dozen; every stupid moron who knows how to use Front Page has one.

    Open source can, and has, done a lot for server-side hardware. But it just doesn't sell enough iron on the desktop to matter. Look what happened to VA Linux.

    Open source sells plenty of iron- it's just that there's no point in going with some boutique rackmount company with absurd sales policies(see below), when you've got better support, better hardware, better access to parts, etc from IBM, Gateway, HP, Compaq...all of whom have supported Linux on a lot of their hardware for years.

    VA filled a niche that disappeared the second the Big Boys supported Linux; none of the big corporations really knew who VA was, and nobody cared; they just called their IBM/HP/Gateway/Compaq rep and ordered up systems from them. What made it worse was that VA didn't have stock on 'accessory' items, and you couldn't get parts. For example, this is an almost word-for-word phone conversation between VA and myself, trying to get carriers for adding new drives to our one VA Linux DB server(we needed the drives within 2 days.)

    Operator:"Thank you for calling VA blah blah"
    Me:"Sales please."
    Sales:"VA sales, this is ____, how can I help you?"
    Me: "I need two SCSI drive carriers for my VA ____."
    Sales:"Ah, you'll need to talk to someone in our parts department, they handle those requests. Let me transfer you."
    Parts:"VA Parts, how can I help you?"
    Me: "Yes, Hi, I need two SCSI drive carriers for my VA ____."
    Parts:"Okay, hmm, one sec..[click click click click]...I'm sorry sir, they're not available."
    Me:"Oh, backordered? When will they be in?"
    Parts:"We have them in stock. I'm not authorized to sell you this part."
    (very long pause while I censor myself)
    Me:"Okkkkaaaaaay. Do you have any 36GB 10,000 RPM drives?"
    Parts:"Yes."
    Me:"How much?"
    Parts:"$800 each"
    Me(I actually laughed):"I can get those drives from any of a dozen vendors for half that. Alright, fine. How soon can you have them shipped to me?"
    Parts:"We don't have any in stock. Maybe two weeks."

    So you know what we did? We swore never to buy another VA Linux system, ordered two drives from a vendor who had them there by 10am the next morning, and jury-rigged them in the drive slots. VA sunk themselves with stupid bullshit that kept customers from meeting critical deadlines. Many IT departments work on a "we needed this two days ago" schedule, not a "we might need this in two weeks" schedule. There are those that recognize this, and those that try to force you into buying product they don't even have in stock, by not selling you parts like empty drive carriers- and consequently go out of business when suddenly they're the dinky little hole-in-the-wall company nobody cares about in a market full of Big Boys. We bought over two dozen rackmount servers within a year of that incident, and they came from Gateway- not VA.

  6. Re:You mislead by canajin56 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Same in Canada. You have to phone in. The best part, my friend changed his soundcard and the rep wouldn't believe him. She was like "No, I can't do that, you already activated it last month. You can only use it on one computer".

    And yes, it did this with only ONE piece of hardware.

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