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Nobel Prize Winners on Sci-Fi Flicks

scientistguy writes "In case you missed it, Harold Varmus, Nobel prize winning retrovirologist and cancer biologist, former NIH director, and current head of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, has written a review of 28 Days Later in this weekend's New York Times. One would think that his time is more valuably spent running important medical institutions, searching for new cancer insights/cures, etc, but the dude's also an English lit major and has a penchant for sci-fi. 28 Days Later is the new flick from director Danny Boyle (Shallow Grave, Trainspotting, etc.) about a virus termed rage that is advertently released from a Cambridge primate research facility and goes on to devastate much of merry old England more rapidly than the dragons did in Reign of Fire. Although Varmus appears to go out of his way to be even handed, it's clear that he has a problem suspending disbelief on a topic (virology) that is near and dear to him. Reviews from professional movie critics on 28 Days Later have been mixed, but Ebert and another NY Times reviewer were into it. Good, clean summer fun - aside from 'the scenes of maiming, dismemberment, clubbing, shooting, bayoneting and shoplifting'."

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  1. You don't have to pay $9 for this movie by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2, Informative

    For a mere £15 you can watch it on your region-free DVD player. Eat that, MPAA fascists!

    1. Re:You don't have to pay $9 for this movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
      And if you have a PAL compatable TV, you can SEE it!

      Ummm... you do know that there are plenty of standalone DVD players that do the NTSC/PAL conversion just fine, so that you can watch PAL discs on an NTSC television set ... right?

    2. Re:You don't have to pay $9 for this movie by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your opinion is worth conciderably less then than the amount you 'paid' to watch 28 Days Later.

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  2. Re:damn the science by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    -----SPOILERS-----

    Well, from the little that we're told, the chimps are under a drug regimen designed to *repress* the rage. So,
    A.) The virus quiets down momentarily when the victim has satisfied the desire to attack (which matches the behavior of the "zombies" in the flick, who slow down and wander off after any confrontation)
    or
    B.) The chimp seeing the videos was being monitored for threshold levels or some such.

    Remember, the researcher said (pretty much) that "we need to see the phenomenon to understand it"

    Frankly, what little hope I had of reasonable consistency died when the lights were on in the supermarket.
    Science this ain't. After all "all of Manchester" is burning down but London, with more old buildings and the same lack of controls has not a single fire, even WITH their blowing up a gas (sorry, "petrol") station. I was wondering about the lack of fires *way* before they showed the burning skyline.

    It's a thrill flick, dude. You're not going to find the logical reason for everything. You'ld be better off trying to find logic in the sequence of stardates in early Star Trek episodes.

    Rustin

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  3. Is 28 Days Later a remake? by cliffy2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Vincent Price's "The Last Man on Earth" released some time in the 60s-70s had virtually the same exact plotline: disease infects all of mankind, and Price is immune. Except the infected aren't zombies. They're vampires. It was a crappy movie, but somewhat affecting. So... can anyone answer this? Was Boyle merely influenced by this classic? Or is it a total rip-off?

    1. Re:Is 28 Days Later a remake? by great+throwdini · · Score: 5, Informative
      Vincent Price's "The Last Man on Earth" ... Was Boyle merely influenced by this classic? Or is it a total rip-off?

      I always thought that The Omega Man was a remake of The Last Man on Earth (which I didn't realize was an Italian production), both of which were based on the work of Matheson: I Am Legend. Great book.

  4. Re:damn the science by dewie · · Score: 2, Informative

    So even though, the whole idea of the virus getting transmitted to humans was insane, I didn't care.

    You find the idea of a virus being transmitted from other primates to humans insane? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you; if so, I apologise. I haven't seen the movie, but from reading the review this seems like one of its least unrealistic aspects. Cross-species viral infection is quite common, and the primate-human jump has been made by, for example, the ebola virus.

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  5. hulk cgi by jDinK · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can't call the CGI in the hulk movie bad without having seen it. They actually pulled it off quite well.

    The trailers and commercials certainly DO look bad. They look worse than the worse parts of the movie, IMO. I don't really know why they put crappy shots in the previews, but they did.

  6. Hell freezes over! by pommaq · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow. It's a NY Times story, but someone finally figured out you can use the Google affiliate link to skip all the free reg hoo-haw. I think that's a first. Been waiting for that ever since the account generator stopped working.
    Please keep it up!

  7. Saw 28 days later about 82 days ago by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Informative

    (When it came out in Belgium).
    Bloody great movie, mate, a remake of John Wyndham's Day of the Triffids only wiff cockney vampire zombies. Bloke wakes up from a come, finds himself all alone in London on a grey monday morning. Not a bleedin' soul. Stumbles into a church, gets attacked by a bunch of howling crazy red-eyed winos, and saved by a duo dressed in tank glasses and leather. The film only gets better and better, exploring some serious themes in a generously superficial manner: the individual against society (what bleeding society, they're all dead!), sexism (army squad saves hero and ladies, then tries to kill hero and rape ladies), abuse of power (same army squad) and armageddon (play with fire, get burnt).
    Actually it was a cool movie, going lightly on the monster makeup and relying heavily on the viewer's own imagination. It may be too subtle for the US market, clearly a UK film, dry and sharp. Think of it as the film as the sequel to Resident Evil, without Milla Jovovich but with an equally sexy Naomie Harris.

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  8. Re:A video stream is a video stream. by anubi · · Score: 2, Informative
    Thanks for the correction, keesh.

    No, I'm not from IBM, or use VM. Most of my background is in aerospace stuff during the moon days of the 70's, where I watched it go from paradise to pot when our motto changed from "failure is not an option" to "faster, better, cheaper".

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  9. Varmus missing the point by Marcus+Brody · · Score: 2, Informative

    This film came out in the UK a few months back. It's basically a zombie flick, so you should ignore any scientific ponderings about the nature of viruses, and suspend disbelief.

    However, this is in places an intelligent film, and worthy of good review. However, Varmus critisices the scientific implications of the film, whereas the artistic and social aspects of the film are much more insightful.

    For example, the film contains a nice twist on the whole zombie-movie genre. The fact that in a post-apocolyptic world, the survivors will be the last people you want to inherit the earth (e.g. stupid young men tooled up with ridiculous firepower), is a good point, and speaks some volumes about the direction our world could go.