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Swiping Out Cancer

mhackarbie writes "Just read this article over on Wired about a cheap hand scanner which might be able to spot cancer tumors. It took only few seconds of reflection before I decided this could be the killer biotech app which is needed for the dot-bio boom everyone keeps predicting someday." We've mentioned this gizmo before.

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  1. This is not biotech by stm2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It won't be a biotech "killer app" since biotech companies are working on genomic and proteomic application. By definition, biotech involves altering DNA on organism (usually bacteria) and selling a protein or procedure derivated from it.
    This device seems promising, but can't be called biotechnology.

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    1. Re:This is not biotech by robslimo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bullpuckey.

      Bio, a prefix meaning life/living organisms
      tech, short for technology.

      OK, we've got a handheld scanner that can be used to enhance/lengthen/improve a persons life. Seems like an application of techology to life/living organisms.

      Biotech it is.

    2. Re:This is not biotech by stm2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hello Rob,

      I understand what you mean with bio=live tech=technology, so this would we biotech. But according to most biotech official definition, biotech is another thing.
      Look here:
      According to dupont (a industry leader)
      "is the application of scientific knowledge to transfer beneficial genetic traits from one species to another to enhance or protect an organism"
      According to the Biotechnology Industry Association:
      "The use of biological processes to solve problems or make useful products."
      This last is more broader, but it fundamentals is to use a biological process. IF the handheld scanner basic would be based on a bio function, ok, but it is electronic. It is used to monitor a bio process, but the device is based on an electronic principle.
      Look at the biotech companies websites (lot of them trades in NASDAQ), and look for their products, they don't offer what most slashdot reader call biotech.
      Trying to explian what biotech is to an slashdot reader is as hard as trying to explain to my biotech coworkers that hacking is not something evil :)

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  2. But it hasn't been peer reviewed! by PelagicArgosy · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Experts will remain cautious until a study on TRIMprob's abilities has been examined in a peer-reviewed medical journal."

    and from the earlier BBC article:
    "The results have yet to be accepted for publication in a major medical journal - and the device will not find favour in hospitals elsewhere until they are."

    This is the key point - without peer review, there's no way of verifying the claims of a company that is obviously in marketing mode.

    Searching Medline for "Tissue Resonance InterferoMeter Probe" or "TRIMprob" turned up ZERO matches. Without good evidence, there is no reason to take this seriously as other than marketing fluff.

  3. Re:Not convinced by HeyLaughingBoy · · Score: 4, Informative
    When we're dealing with stuff like cancer, 95% (say) accuracy isn't enough.

    For many blood tests, 95% accuracy is considered excellent and essentially means it's 100% accurate for all practical purposes. hCG (pregnancy test) comes to mind. I doubt current single tests for cancer are any better.
    Hmmm... a quick googling reveals that current breast cancer methods are around 80% and a new PSA (prostate) test clocks in at 98% best case.
    I'd say 95% is pretty damn good.
  4. Re:Fantastic! This will come in eh...'handy' for: by Michael+Dorfman · · Score: 2, Informative

    >Testicle-cancer in men is (also) often diagnosed too late. I do not know how they confirm that you have it (AFTER the physical examination) but I
    > hope to god it does not involve a vice-like device :o

    A vice-like device? You should be so lucky.
    Confirmation involves a knife.

  5. Misinformation. by Marc2k · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're only making things worse. You misquoted (perhaps intentionally) to further your definition in hopes that no one would find the Dupont site. The actual line you're quoting, sans elipsis, states, "Transgenics (often referred to as biotechnology) is the application of scientific knowledge to transfer beneficial genetic traits from one species to another to enhance or protect an organism."

    They are clearly talking about the field of transgenics, which is what you called 'biotechnology', they were merely stating that it is often called biotechnology, but with the implication that biotech refers to a much larger spectrum.

    Even further, if you would have followed the link to the Biotechnology Industry Organization (BIO)'s glossary, you would have found that they describe biotechnology as, "Biotechnology -
    The use of biological processes to solve problems or make useful products." under which the product in question would surely fall.

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  6. Re:Not convinced by stm2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    95% is excellent as you say. But pregnancy test, has more than 99% accuracy, since it is based on an monoclonal antibody mediated reaction.

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  7. Re:I'm sure it will do wonders for.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not necessarily illegal, maybe it depends on who you are. I had an inteview with CSIS (canadian CIA) once. One of the first 5 questions they asked me was wheter or not I had done any illegal drugs in the past year. I don't think they would have done any tests per say, but part of the recruiting process included a polygraph, which they would have probably asked the same question, and discovered if I had been lying. It's amazing, here i was interviewing for a job with computers, and they weren't concerned at all whether I was a hacker/cracker(i'm not, but they didn't ask), but were worried about very occasional marijuana use. Just doesn't make much sense to me.

  8. Re:Arnt Microwaves on the body dangerious? by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Informative
    "We all know that sticking your head in a microwave oven is bad for you... right?" Microwaves induce movement of water molecules (when its in liquid form). so does your stove... why should we fear this without any hard scientific evidence that it is dangerous?

    This isn't because microwaves cause cancer--there still is no consistent corpus of evidence to support that hypothesis and there may never be--but rather because they cause heating. There are proteins within our bodies' cells that begin to denature at around forty degrees celsius. At or above this temperature (which actually isn't particularly warm), the proportion of exposed cells that die is a function of temperature and exposure time. (See, for example, James R. Lepock, "Protein Denaturation During Heat Shock" in Advances in Molecular and Cell Biology, Volume 19, pages 223-259, for an excellent survey of current thought on the mechanisms at work.)

    So microwaves are dangerous because they cause heating. Not only that, they can cause deep heating in localized hotspots. In other words, you may actually do damage to the brain, eyes, and other organs very quickly without having to burn through the layers on the surface first. (This is what makes microwaves more threatening than the stovetop. The heating elements don't burn unless you come into close contact, and they can't burn deeply without lengthy exposure.)

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