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RunAmuk writes "Wired is reporting about being able to "Point and click your mobile phone at a poster in London movie theaters this July and you'll be able to directly access the movie's Web page." While there are many practical uses for this technology, like in museums as the article suggests." I'd like to use it at video rental places and CD stores to get product reviews.

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  1. RFID by frieked · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is it me or does this seem like nothing more than making a movie poster an RFID and a cellphone a portable reader?

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    1. Re:RFID by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm sure someone will attempt to enlighten me now, though. :) That's my :Cue...

      Early barcodes were viewed with great suspicion. People did not understand that they were just printing in computer-only font. Add the "mysteries of lasers" to people whose only experiences with computers to date had been a punch-card phone bill that they heard charged their neighbor $9999.99 for long distance, and movies such as Colossus or James Bond where lasers were used only to cut good guys in half and yeah, people were paranoid.

      And somehow, we'd like to think more of ourselves at this point, that we're more technologically enlightened.

      Truth is, more of us are more enlightened. We have seen large databases, and we have seen them misused. We have seen technology used to provide us with new and better advertising (via browser cookies, credit card purchases, etc.); terrorist tracking in airports where the wrong bits in a database cause a code at the bottom of your ticket to mean "body cavity search"; streetlight mounted cameras issuing red-light tickets; U.S. Government announcements regarding systems such as TIA, etc, etc, etc. We have all seen the abuses, and have no reason to think the situation will get better instead of worse.

      The reason RFID is viewed differently from barcodes is twofold.

      • RFID is permanent, and
      • RFID can be read without your permission.
      Barcodes are typically printed on tags ripped off at the point of sale, or printed on the packaging that is thrown away when the consumer gets home. A barcode in your pocket means nothing. It stays your business because nobody and nothing can see it unless you choose to show it to them. But current RFID proposals use durable tags manufactured into the goods and meant to stay permanently in the merchandise. And they can be read from eight feet away via a hidden antenna in the ceiling (or in the ubiquitous security antennas flanking every nearly every store entrance these days.)

      So, got RFID in your jacket, your jeans, your wallet, your credit cards? Let's just have a look as you pass through our fancy store entrance. "$400 shoes, $59.99 khaki Dockers, $89.99 shirt, $19.99 naughty underwear; and three Gold and two Platinum cards with a total current open credit line of $69,252. Send two scantily-clad female salespeople immediately, and change the video posters to 'Dominatrix Theme #3'." [All you geeks wish, anyway.]

      Contrast that image with "Mismatched tennis shoes, $7.99 Wal*Mart jeans that we tracked through a Goodwill store last December, and an army surplus greatcoat. No credit cards and one Illinois food stamp card detected. Food stamp card cross referenced to CrimNet: holder Joe Smith is African-American, has two counts of drunken brawls in taverns, and marijuana charges dropped since successful completion of rehab. Lives in Cabrini Green. Change the video posters to flashing red 'Security Alert Theme #1', start the tracking cameras following this guy immediately, and send two burly security officers to encourage him to complete his shopping experience at Wal*Mart."

      Now, take the same guy and dress him up in nice clothes, but leave the food stamp card in his wallet. Same guy, different look. He's still going to get escorted out of the store for the dual crimes of being poor and shopping while black. And now that process can be automated.

      Has the second guy committed a crime? Some people might say, "not yet, but he sure fits the profile." Others would say that he won't because with a tracking system like this, he would never get the chance to steal. But the honest answer is still, "no, he has done nothing wrong." And now does he get the same opportunity as Mr. Khakis above? Not any more.

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  2. this better not replace what's already at museums! by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For example, it could be used in museums and galleries, where visitors could download high-quality audio and visual content about exhibits.

    Will this hinder museums from adding both visual and audio cues to their exhibits? I personally think that cell phones should be banned in public places such as museums and this will just encourage Joe to hop on his cell phone and chat with Mary while I am trying to enjoy some peace and quiet.

    I saw some really interesting usages of computers in museums (like here, I realise this is more of a piece of art, but you get the idea).

    Keep the cell phones out and enjoy getting away from things that you see and use everyday.

    Just my worthless .02

  3. Practical Applications by ThePolemarch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I saw the *applications* described in the articles, but reallistically, how much time does that save? Yes, you are taken directly to the web page, thus providing a measure of convenience of not navigating to the page yourself, but I can't see widespread use of this technology for the applications mentioned. To me, any review of a movie, which you are sent to by those advertising the movie, has to be at least a bit biased.

    Besides. . .who wants more ads?

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  4. It seems like more tech than needed. by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Many newer cell phones have GPS and web capability.

    Wouldn't it be easier to visit a website set up for this purpose and send the locational data to get a lookup of everything posted for those coordinates?

    That way, we wouldn't be limited to the information that was paid for in the case of a movie theater being linked to the "official" site.

    Actual reviews could be posted, dare I say, moderated upon as well?

  5. I don't know about you. by headbulb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But when I leave the computer I don't really wanna take it with me. I don't wanna phone that can get internet. I want a phone that is simple... I have a dad that has a pda, digital camera, gps. Its beyond annoying when you have to stop because someone in your group has to check the gps corodanites for the place you are at. Technology is great, But so is this world. Lets enjoy the world and technology, But make sure that we have a balance. If your balance is take your pda everywhere with you then thats your choise.

    1. Re:I don't know about you. by Zebbers · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ummm
      if my fone has a pda and gps in it already
      and is no extra burden to have
      and i already need to carry my fone
      then it is good

  6. Why does my phone keep beeping? by curtisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How are the phones choosing what to "receive", point and "click"? thats a little vague. And what happens if someone slams a bunch (of different ones) up on a wall, which tag, or do you get them all? Who will administer all these tags? Can coke go around and plop them on pepsi billboards? Can a prankster (heheh) make some to well, in essense spam users with their messages? It sounds like a cool idea, but the implementation issues sound potentially horrible.

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  7. phones on ... great by Ian+0x57 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just what I need, people turning their phones ON in the theater. The last thing we need is encouragement to bring more phones.

  8. [snide] Fair and Balanced [ /snide] on your phone. by switcha · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'd like to use it at video rental places and CD stores to get product reviews.

    I'm sure that the rollout of that would never involve the media companies signing on (or walking across the hall) with the phone companies to control that content.

    "This 'Cell-O-Matic' review of this fine MGM movie, brought to you by...MGM"

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  9. The real usage by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hard enough
    to read the current
    text on my cell phone
    that has a screen no
    wider than this mess
    age. I can't imagine
    reading lengthy discuss
    ions of art works and
    paintings on a cell
    phone. I think my thumb
    would break from hitting
    the scroll button const
    antly.

  10. Re:Are you kidding? by Alpha_Traveller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, they aren't kidding. The industry is not going to be afraid of that if the review site is owned by the same company making the movie, which I guarantee will be the case. Every movie distributor will want a piece of the action to make sure the information you see and hear about THEIR movie is exactly what you should be hearing (in their minds). They will *pay* for that priviledge. And if your cell minutes are used to do this, so will you.

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  11. Spam escapes from the computer by yintercept · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would they have to charge for this? With this new technology, Spam and popup ads will finally be able to escape from the computers into the community at large where they can really wreak havoc.

    People think billboards are sight pollution, well, we ain't seen nothing yet. Ten years from now, you won't be able to walk down a city street without a bombardment of media messages.

    Just like the Internet, all these media messages will be free!!!!

  12. Reviews by Mikey-San · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a few funny posts have pointed out, you'll never see reviews for products in the stores, and if you /do/ see them, you aren't going to see the really terrible reviews--accurate, perhaps, but still bad, so their accuracy is irrelevant--in the store next to the aisle where you'll find said reviewed product.

    Not to take the opportunity to take a shot at Microsoft (seriously), but IE does something in the same mindset. Rather, it doesn't do something:

    It doesn't block pop-up windows. Why? Advertising is what would be blocked, and Microsoft wants more people to advocate its browser. If company A has a product that company B is going to hide or recommend you don't touch, company A won't care about company B's method of delivery.

    Capitalism(tm): Pro-consumer all the way!*

    *void in the real world

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  13. Re:Sort of repeat... by Adam+Schumacher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except that it is a different product with different technologies made by a different company with different functions.

    The system in the article you reference is based on the location of the phone, whereas the system in this article is based on the location of the tag.

    Amazing what you can learn from reading the article, eh?