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Olmos Tells Fans: "Don't Watch Galactica"

Obiwan Kenobi writes "Edward James Olmos, in a meeting with a group of TV Critics, did something unbelievable: he pleaded with them to tell their readers not to watch the new Battlestar Galactica remake on the Sci-Fi Channel: 'I must say one thing and will say this very clearly, if you are a person who really has a strict belief in the original, I would not advise that you watch this program. It'll hurt them.'"

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  1. Doesn't surpise me... by Flamed+to+a+Crisp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...After all, aren't remakes always worse than the originals?

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    1. Re:Doesn't surpise me... by Pxtl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dune wasn't really a re-make. It was deliberately designed to _ignore_ the first film. It was just a second direct adaptation from Herbert's Book (which, IMHO, while was closer to the original content of the book, still missed the point).

    2. Re:Doesn't surpise me... by gpinzone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's a fair statement. The same applies with Star Trek. I mean take a look at some of those episodes. Giant space ameobas? Earth history on another planet? Feh. The reason you loved it was because for its time, it was special. Christ, in the 80s, everything was watered down and kiddie. This stuff was groundbreaking. Today, adult-themed anime is on TV with curses for christsakes.

  2. Egads!` by UrGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The original "Battlestar Galactica" was not the worst science fiction show on TV but it was not good, not good at all.

    Maybe I will like this new one after all.

    1. Re:Egads!` by agurkan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      well, as a physicist i have to disagree. the ships in battlestar galactica do not move by classical propulsion, they use that only to maneuver. the real means of travel is via distortion of spacetime around the ships which does not change your inertia but let you move in spacetime by modifying the geodesics. incidentally, this is why these people do not feel the fictitious forces due to accelaration of the ships. of course that distortion does require energy so bringing fleet to a halt is necessary when you are low on fuel.
      i hope this clarifies...

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  3. Yawn by SYFer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's been saying this for quite some time now (Google: olmos galactica purist).

    Clearly this is just PR. I wonder how many of the "purists" will actually tune out?

    Suckas.

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  4. What is Sci-Fi's core audience? by Goldfinger7400 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've often wondered why the Sci-FI channel goes to such incredible lengths to alienate what would be one of its key audiences, specifically, the Buck Rogers/escapism crowd. Fantasy-ish shows dealing with interesting issues through the use of cartoonish characters that serve as a foil for the seriousness of situations always seemed to be at the heart of science fiction for me. Yet when I turn on the Sci-Fi channel for some light entertainment, more often than not I'm greated with some awful, disturbing horror movie.

    Granted, these shows are cheap, but Sci-Fi got great ratings (i think) when they brought Star Trek to the network, proving that light entertainment is appreciated. So why the realism in a Battlestar Galactica show? Why the heck is Sci-Fi so dark?

    1. Re:What is Sci-Fi's core audience? by Sabalon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      AMEN!!! Crossing-Over? Scare Tactics?

      I understand that original programming is costly, though they seem to be doing good with Tremors, Stargate, Farscape, etc... even the Dune series were well done.

      But if they don't spend the money there, then what about re-running other shows...there is a huge list of both good and bad stuff that they could show. They have shown some things, others they haven't. (assuming that sci-fi also includes fantasy)

      ST: TNG, SeaQuest, Dr Who, Hercules, Xena, Highlander for some of the long running stuff that would fit.

      As for some shows they could probably get cheap that were one-series things: Battlestar Galactica, Otherworld, Automan, Wizards and Warriors, Space above and beyond, etc...

      There is a huge list I can't remember. I just looked at the schedule for next week, and they do have some shows in there I didn't expect, but lots of runs of old (ie cheap) shows like ST: TOS, Dark Shadows, Outer Limits, etc...

      They'd be better off with more variety.

      Oh well...I guess I'm in the minority or something and just cranky.

  5. Classy move by infonography · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hollywood is out of ideas, to borrow a phrase from Fark. Even if he's just trying to head off nitpicking from critics the previews I've seen are rather lackluster. DUNE sucked, and the killed off Farscape. Beyond that the SciFi Channel needs to get over it's fear of Anime. I realize they are trying not to swamp the channel with Animated (but really cool) stuff and turn into a Cartoon Network knockoff. However if they keep trotting out RICHARD GRIECO someone will step in and take their nitch.

    Tech TV's Anime Unleashed is trying really hard and getting out the Channel for IT Nerds image.

    The SciFi Channel is fast becoming 'The place bad programing goes to die'

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  6. What is so wrong with The Sci-Fi Channel? by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really people. If the sci fi channel had the real money to pump into something, they would. *Cough* Farscape! *cough*

    Complaining that the sets look cheap on a non-mainstay cable channel isn't the reality of television now. Farscape was the most expensive made for cable show ever. It really needed a lot of viewers. I was one of them, but obviously the economics don't support it. Period. So it died. I cannot help that. I was watching. But at least Sci-fi is trying to do something original. It is at least aggressive about growing its audience. That is why I watch them. They try. And they make original TV. So there. Can you say that about many other channels? Does lifetime have a budget for their made-for-tv crapfests that last seventy million hours? NO. Sci-fi is working on it. It may not be the best, but they are working on it.

    Now that Galactica (a mediocre at best TV show, but one that makes us remember our past, I even had a jacket as a kid) comes back for a little cable money, you all start screaming that it is crap long before it airs. Months before it airs. Look, they just cannot afford to make the best shows with the best actors. YOU NEED TO BUY MORE ADVERTISING AND THEN THEY CAN AFFORD TO GROW THE BRAND. Sorry, as much as I am a sci-fi nut, we are a niche market. We will always get a "niche price" on things. Pray that you are not the Oxygen channel and that you have the Isaac Mizrahi show as your original programming.

    Look, complaining about the Sci-Fi channel will not change the fact that they are broke and trying to change that. Giving you something to watch... even if it is a remake, is not cheap. They at least have the balls to venture on TV. They are spending money, employing light riggers, paying actors, and getting TV made when you have no room to bitch or get stuck with the same reruns you've seen since '95.

    Stop bitching about anyone making new programming, because if the execs smell backlash, then we are getting NOTHING NEW, and they are putting all of their money into TRADING SPACES. Got it?

  7. Re:Gratuitous Mormon Content, anyone? by Teancom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As an active, temple-going Mormon, and someone whose seen the original BG movie, I had to have the connections pointed out to me, and even then it was just surface stuff like calling the council at the beginning of the movie "The Quorum of the Twelve" (or something like that, it's been a year or so and my memory is hazy). It was more along the lines of insider jokes for fellow mormons to laugh at (the writers were mormon). Either way, it was *not* some sort of "expose" of the "secret Mormon dogma". There is nothing to sue over, or worry about...

    Oh, and the people that had the temerity to base a work on the CoS were Cos members themselves. And the results *were* horrific, but only to the audience. Unless you *liked* "Battlefield Earth"?!?!?

  8. SciFi can afford this? by FullCircle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But they could not afford one last season of Farscape to end the series that loyal fans had watched for four years?

    SciFi is trying it's level best to run headlong into the ground.

    They do not have my sympathy.

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  9. Re:hmm by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fans don't not watch anything. It's their nature. They'll watch. It takes forever for fans to break their franchise-addictions, while they so often fail to give truly good new material their support.

    Pardon me if I sound bitter. The fact all the Star Wars and Star Trek movies made gallons of money, and that Gattaca lost money, tells me that SF fans deserve every bit of misery they get.

  10. Re:Aircraft carrier? by ChrisWong · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They did have missiles: the Pegasus, remember? Blew up two enemy base ships. The Galactica itself had guns of comparable firepower which it used in another episode to blow up another of those base ships.

    It is not that clear that nukes are that useful in space. In a vacuum, there is no material to push around, so you won't get the mushroom and shockwave. The intensity of the heat will drop off very rapidly with distance. A heavily armored ship might get a nice sun tan if a nuke detonated next to it, but perhaps not much more. So nukes will look comparatively wimpy in space.

    In any case, I get your point. Weapons tend to be wimpy in SF. If weapons grow commensurately lethal with technology, the carnage would be such that you might not expect the main cast members to be alive long. Dramatic dogfights might not be possible. That would make lousy TV.

  11. Sci-Fi by Kyouryuu · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've often wondered just what exactly is up with the Sci-Fi Channel. They seem notorious for taking really good ideas and then crushing or otherwise mauling them. Battlestar Galactica was never a show I watched nor can I say I was ever a fan enough. But the fact that this new one promises to be very different from the original prompts me to wonder why they didn't just create an entirely new series with new characters and hype it to death.

    Anyhow, back to my original point. Sci-Fi has virtually no good programming. As the person way up above said, they spend a lot of time airing shows that have nothing to do with sci-fi (except for Crossing Over... of course ;p). The final straw was when they killed Farscape. In their deus ex machina ending, Aeryn and John get vaporized and left to die. The crew screams and begs for mercy. And then Sci-Fi thanked the viewers for 5 great years. Yeah - that's what did it for me. The whole "You really don't give a rip about your fans, do you?"

    Then there was Mystery Science Theater 3000. It was saved by Sci-Fi after Comedy Central decided to can it, it's true. But they stipulated that MST3K stick with sci-fi and horror movies (Horror is sci-fi? Since when?). Now they run the same five episodes ad nauseum every Saturday. Ironically, Sci-Fi's filler material consists of the same movies Mike and the crew would "pay homage to."

    There also was the Saturday Morning Anime a long time ago, which was an introduction for many people to the art form and probably was one of the first major showings of anime on the cable networks. Even if it wasn't the greatest anime, it was better than the Ray Bradbury Theater. But Sci-Fi in their infinite wisdom scrapped that idea as well and the station continues to be decisively animephobic.

    So, for me, Sci-Fi is a waste of a television station. A good idea marred by horrible execution and ignorance. Maybe someday they'll get the clue that I don't want to watch cheesy B-movies from the 1950s, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

    So it's not a complete diatribe (too late), you might ask what I would do if I were Sci-Fi. Well, first, I'd either surround myself with a combination of older space operas and have at least two exciting new ones. If we can't have the lavish sets of Farscape, we can scale it down a bit. Have some anime movies from time to time. Ditch all of the goth and horror nonsense that isn't sci-fi. It's probably okay to keep some of the new age programming, like the UFO secrets thing or even that show where they have the homebrew sci-fi clips, but don't rely on it. And for crist sake listen to your fans. Not the rabid fanboys who know what kind of underwear Captain Kirk wore in episode 24, but your typical casual fan. Fans make sci-fi work. Without them, you have nothing.

  12. As a fan of the original series... by downix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm actually looking forward to this. Sound corny, but I'm curious to actually witness what they've done. Sure, I loved the 70's show, but I'm not so foolish as to think that it is a golden goose. I see potential in this interpretation, even with the less-than-folklore aspect in comparison to the original. I see strong actors, a good plot, and most of all, a far grittier template to work from.

    The only thing I've read that I'm less than thrilled about is the sex. I'm sick of sex in sci-fi. I don't want to see Ripley's underwear. I don't want to see the vulcan chick get jelled-up. I don't want to see Baltar getting a hummer from a damned inflatadate!

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  13. Gattaca lost money? How? It cost $300 to make by BenJeremy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gee whiz, they shot the thing in some shopping mall and I think the only spaceship shot was a launch plume (could have used stock footage of a Saturn V takeoff.)

    Some might call it "intelligent sci-fi" - I call it cheap and boring. Give me a rousing Space Opera any day over the visual valium of Gattaca.