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GPS Slowly Changing How Things Are Done

Hemos forwarded me a link to a story at Fast Company about how GPS is changing the way people do business. Several good examples are used, from farmers in Alabama to anti-theft devices. Some notes on GPS' military origins as well. Also worth noting is how GPS, like computers, wasn't adopted overnight, but rather over time as applications were found.

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  1. No really! by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'm working late tonight, don't wait up..."

    "Oh really? Then how come your cell phone is in Joe's Tavern with your secretary's pager bobbing over your coordinates?"

    "...*dialtone*..."

    ..err, I meant to say, cool!

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    1. Re:No really! by philj · · Score: 5, Informative

      You laugh, but in England there's already a service that lets you locate mobile ("cell" in your 'Merkin lingo) phones without using GPS: http://www.fleetonline.net/

    2. Re:No really! by marko123 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Merkin lingo?" I didn't know fake pubic hair could talk.
      Click here for definition

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  2. Love My GPS! by NetJunkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a Garmin GPS V and LOVE it. The turn-by-turn routing has been a huge help. We started looking to buy a house and would print out a ton of MLS listings. Without the GPS we'd have to spend a lot of time planning our route. With the GPS we just punch in the address of the next house and off we go. Very accurate.

    1. Re:Love My GPS! by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The turn-by-turn routing has been a huge help. "

      My step mom has that feature built in too. My dad says the command recognition's a little off, tho.

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  3. Could Help SCO by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe SCO can use GPS to locate *nix code in Linux. So far they sure don't seem to have found much of it otherwise.

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    1. Re:Could Help SCO by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Maybe SCO can use GPS to locate *nix code in Linux. So far they sure don't seem to have found much of it otherwise. "

      Give the inspectors more time!!

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  4. color moving map 12 channel magellan GPS less $199 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

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    nice organizer with handspring expansion slot
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  5. Imagine if GPS were made by a corporation... by Thinkit3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comparable to DirectTV (see slashdot article about them). The signals would be scrambled unless you paid $9.99 per month for a "license fee". They could use the stupidest encryption around, and anybody who broke it would be put in jail and fined. Scramblin it for a military purpose makes sense, but scrambling it to protect "intellectual property" is just stupid. Unit cost for one more person to use it is zero. Like America's Army game, an example of good use of government to keep things sane. A libertarian might argue for donation-based entities, but either way it gets done.

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    1. Re:Imagine if GPS were made by a corporation... by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This is soooo wrong on so many levels:
      But instead the government just spends our tax money so people can look for buried garbage in the woods.
      No, it was built for the military. Someone thought "Hey, if we're building this anyway, we might as well also make it available for civilian use". But it wasn't built for civilian use, it was built for defending the country.
      It's only free for mooching foreign nations who do nothing but whine about it.
      No, it isn't free for the countries "whining" about it. The countries "whining" about it are building their own system, rather than "mooching" off the US's.

      And the funny part of this is that the US government is pretty pissed they're doing that.

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  6. Geocaching by IwannaCoke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My father and I use GPS receivers as often as possible. We are both Geocachers.

    For those of you that don't know what Geocaching is, here is a quote from the geocaching.com FAQ:

    "What is Geocaching?

    Geocaching is an entertaining adventure game for gps users. Participating in a cache hunt is a good way to take advantage of the wonderful features and capability of a gps unit. The basic idea is to have individuals and organizations set up caches all over the world and share the locations of these caches on the internet. GPS users can then use the location coordinates to find the caches. Once found, a cache may provide the visitor with a wide variety of rewards. All the visitor is asked to do is if they get something they should try to leave something for the cache. "

    1. Re:Geocaching by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny
      Just as a word of warning for inexperienced geo cachers there are a few things you should not put in your cache or the results might not be quite what you intended (unless you like being visited by lots of military grade explosive)
      1. Weapons of mass destruction
      2. Plans for gas centrifuge machines
      3. Middle aged paunchy men answering to the name Saddam
      4. Middle aged bearded men answering to the name Osama
      5. Any music recordings for which you cannot prove ownership
      6. Modded X-Boxes
      7. MS Source code
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  7. wardriving and computer security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wardriving is a perfect example of how GPS has changed the way we look at computer security, especially where wireless LANs are concerned.

    Check out wifimaps.com to see if your wlan has been scanned.

  8. Question by thomas536 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can someone enlighten me as to why a farmer driving a tractor would need to know their location to a 1' accuracy?

    1. Re:Question by randyest · · Score: 5, Informative

      so he can drive over the same tracks in his wheat field every year (I'm not kidding, read the fine article) and compress as little of his soil as possible

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  9. Privacy ignored ***again*** by Goonie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The mind boggles. How many people are going to accept a system that lets their insurance company track everywhere they drive? Yes, I'm surely more obsessive about this kind of thing than Joe Average, but surely you don't have to be a privacy nut to have some issues with this.

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  10. Re:I hope they don't run over the barn ... by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you are refering to DGPS?

    Conventional civillian GPS (which is not the same as Military GPS, even with SA turned off as it is now) is accurate to typically ~10m. You can enhance that a long way by doing phase matching as well as code matching - survey GPS devices can get down to a few cms (for a price!).

    DGPS works on the basis that for each satellite in the area the error arriving at two units within a couple of hundred miles is roughly the same. (Extra delay is caused by things like atmospheric conditions.) You put one reciever on a known point, and calculate the error for each satellite you can see. You then send all of the calculated corrections to the roaming reciever so it can remove the error in the signals it's getting before it calculates it's position. This is considerably cheaper than using a survey grade GPS, as well as faster, but unlike a survey grade GPS you need to have set up a nearby DGPS transmitter first. The (FAA?) have done this around US airports I believe, to allow autolanding systems to double check against DGPS data as well as ILS beacons.

    It's worth noting that to be able to use DGPS it's _not_ enough to calculate the error in your _position_ and transmit the correction to that as the roaming unit may be using different satellites to you - you have to transmit the error on each satellite signal. Some Garmin units let you extract this data using an undocumented API.

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  11. Re:Why post anonymously then by k_herald · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not to shoot you down or anything but I work specifially with GPS. The GPS C/A code broadcast on L1 (1.57542 GHz) has never been encrypted. The military simply encoded ephemerides for the GPS satellites that were inprecise (this was called "Selective Ability") onto the L1 signal. This led to a user range error of ~30 meters. After this was turned off in 2001 the error went down to ~3 meters. There has always been the PPS ("Precise Positioning Service") P-code signal on the L2 frequency (1.22760 GHz). This is actually encrypted, and is what the military uses in its. Acurracy with this service can be in the range of centimeters (low dynamics case). Working with the L2 signal requires a security clearance and a bunch of goverment red-tape. In the next 10 years there is going to be an explosion of GPS tech. First off the EU is putting up Galileo, which will double the number of SV's orbiting the earth (more satellites in view = better positioning accuracy). Althought the signal structures are not the exact same, because they will be broadcasting at similar carrier frequencies designing a dual use receiver will be a piece of cake. Also GPS is being heavily upgraded. They are adding a third signal with M-code(L3), and adding C/A code on L2. There is also talk about increasing the signal strength, which is a great boon to indoor GPS and using the GPS signal for remote sensing applications. All in all it is a great industry to be in.

  12. Re:Why post anonymously then by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    which is a great boon to indoor GPS

    Fantastic !! I will always be able to locate the TV remote no matter where it hides on me. Now wheres that fscking GPS receiver.....

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  13. Re:Boy, I Wish GPS Was Around During WW2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am getting soooooo sick of the French bashing.

    Look, if it hadn't been for France bailing your asses out 250 years ago, you'd have continued to have your "country" run by some unelected idiot called George whose only qualification to the job was that his father did it.

    Thankfully the French were there to help you defeat King George III, and you avoided that situation.

  14. How technology really evolves... by toupsie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Ever notice that human technological evolution closely mirrors our desire to more efficiently kill our neighbor? Or at least take his stuff for less than the cost of taking his stuff. GPS is a major advance for economical, global force projection. Instead of a squadron of big, lumbering, gas guzzling bombers, you need one little black jet to hit a target. Kill more, spend less. With most military technological advances, they have civilian applications. GPS is a shining example. My favorite is the computer. It was first built to help calculate military equations so mankind could kick his fellow mankind in the ass faster.

    What will ever happen to human progress if we start all being nice to each other?

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  15. GPS works well for locating stuff you bury by doormat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like utility infrastructure. I work at a water company, and before a contractor burries pipeline, we use RTK (realtime kinematic) GPS to record its location down to 0.04' (or 1cm). So when line locators need to mark facilities its much more accurate. Normal GPS isnt that accurate, but we use base stations and radios to send correction data in real time out to the GPS collection devices.

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  16. Re:Boy, I Wish GPS Was Around During WW2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look, if it hadn't been for France bailing your asses out 250 years ago, you'd have continued to have your "country" run by some unelected idiot called George whose only qualification to the job was that his father did it.

    Hmmm.... let's look at today

    unelected? check

    idiot? check

    called George? check

    his father did it? check

    Looks like we need France's help once again. LIBERATE US, FRANCE!

  17. The possible uses of GPS by devross · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Imagine," he says, "the end of property crime. Everything that has any value and could be stolen -- a car, a laptop, a piece of construction equipment" (not to mention every ship, plane, truck trailer, and toddler) -- "everything like that will know its location and be able to report it. We can go even further: You tell your laptop that it should only find itself at your office or your home. And if it finds itself in a car trunk, it wakes up, notices that it's in the wrong place, calls your cell phone, and says, 'Hi, this is your laptop. I'm at this location on this map you see. Is that okay?'"

    That instantly made me think of the Phrack article on the Low Cost and Portable GPS Jammer. Never know when that baby's going to come in handy.

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  18. Why when I was a youngin.... by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We had to pay $60,000 for a rack mount GPS unit for the research ship I was on. We only got 2 or 3 satellite fixes and even then that was for only a handful of hours a day because the constellation wasn't complete. But by cracky we loved it! It was good enough then and by god ... by god... what we wouldn't have done for one of those modern sub $200 contraptions. Oh yea and a full constellation of satellites.

    Navigation for scientific research (gravity & magnetic surveys) was interesting. We'd post process and combine a few hours of GPS a day, Transit Sat Nav (crude sat fixes + dead reconing), plus ARGO ranging navigation. The cool thing about ARGO was that it required shore stations where someone had to be by the transmitter for several weeks. And since the cruises were in the Carribean and off Brasil, sitting around a shore station (aka "the beach") for several weeks was pretttty fine.