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American Solar Challenge 2003 Starts

Ryan Kingsbury writes "The world's longest solar car race kicked off to a sunny start today in Chicago! The American Solar Challenge, which is only held every two years, runs 11 gruelling days along historic Route 66. Race updates can be found at the official site. One big surprise was that last year's winner (University of Michigan) didn't make it through prerace qualifications. This will certainly give some lower budget teams a chance at gold. Details of qualifications can be found here."

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  1. Prize should be bigger by Hao+Wu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If prize was set at 1000000$, 10000000$, or even more money, contest winners will likely build SUPER sun vehicles that can over-take 4-wheel ram rods and pollutant S.U.V.s.

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    1. Re:Prize should be bigger by Carnivorous+Carrot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > If prize was set at 1000000$, 10000000$, or
      > even more money, contest winners will likely
      > build SUPER sun vehicles that can over-take
      > 4-wheel ram rods and pollutant S.U.V.s.

      Umm, in a free-market, free-country, capitalist world, the prize is at least five orders of magnitude larger than that.

      It's not an easy problem.

      Oh, and one old clunker driven by a starving environment-loving artist gives off more pollutants than any 50 modern SUVs.

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  2. Re:Slight problem? by Klimaxor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i'm no electrical engineer, but i'm guessing they would most likely being using very sensative panels, ones manufactured for "less the perfect" lighting conditions. Back that with a decent series of capaciters and priority based distribution, they wouldn't have any problems.

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  3. Kind of Ironic by Infinite93 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I support renewable power and all (Use an iSUN battery charger for my portable Electronics), but think of all the non-renewable time and energy devoted to this type of event. Materials fabrication, student time spent, assembly. The fleet of gas powered cars following around for support of each of these. Research is important, but can't this be a little counter productive?

  4. Wrong... by taped2thedesk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm a member of the Michigan solar car team, and many, if not most, of the members on the non-engineering projects are from the business school or other academic units.

    In fact, the team makes a huge effort to reach out to non-engineering students, and we usually have excellent turnout.

  5. UM Solar Car Team statement by taped2thedesk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm a member of the UM Solar Car Team - they sent the team members and sponsors this message a few hours ago:

    Michigan will not be participating in the 2003 American Solar Challenge. While qualifying for the race in Wisconsin, the car suffered steering system failures which did not allow SpectruM to qualify for and enter the race.

    Although not being able to compete in this summer's ASC was devastating to all those involved with the project, the team is committed to using this experience as a building block for future success.

    This is not the end for SpectruM! According to ASC race officials, SpectruM is "one of the most advanced and innovative Solar Cars ever built."

    During the next month, the team will be displaying SpectruM and the team's sponsors at the Concourse D'Elegance auto show in Cranbrook, the Woodward Dream Cruise and the Management Briefing Seminars in Traverse City.

    The team is also exploring the possibility of racing SpectruM this October in the World Solar Challenge in Australia, as well as participating in the inaugural 2004 Phaethon Hellas Solar Rally held in Greece before the 2004 Summer Olympic Games in Athens.
  6. Neat idea, but expensive by pctainto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am a part of my university's solar car program, but, unfortunately, we couldn't get our body made in time for the rayce. I did, however, make the 10 hour drive to see the cars in Chicago. If anyone is near where 'scrutineering' is in 2 years, they should definetely go see it.

    I helped out with getting various information on different teams' cars, and some of the prices for the things are a bit ridiculous. My university's car is costing less than $150,000, which I thought was pricey until some teams told me that their cars cost 1.5 Million (Queens) or 875,000 (Waterloo).

    I think most people think that the rayce is about showing people that we could have cars that run off of solar power, but that is entirely the wrong idea. The cars are made to show solar powers' abilities... if it can power a car, maybe it could do other things too (who woulda thought?)

    I wish I could've gone on the rayce, but seeing all the cars was cool enough. I just hope our car makes it in time for Formula Sun next year! (Formula Sun Grand Prix is a track race every year)

    http://www.formulasun.org

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    1. Re:Neat idea, but expensive by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My roommate is actually a member of Cal Poly's Solar Car Team (website waay out-dated, beware). I'm incredibly surprised to find out they're in the race. I haven't seen my roommate since school ended, but at that time they were rushing like mad to put the car together and my roommate didn't think they'd make it. They decided to scrap their old car and build an entirely new one for this race, but they didn't get started until this year.

      The funny part is that I've met the guys who work on it, I've seen their work shed, and it really killed the awe of seeing a solar-powered car. The whole thing seems pretty simple when you think about it. It's a car frame with some solar cells attached to a motor. Well, it's not that simple but it's close. I can't comment on the other cars, but about the most complex system they have in the car is the motor control and diagnostics (basically, a digital speedometer).

      Of course, I don't mean to take away from anyone's accomplishments. I know for a fact that my roommate and the rest of the team (well, the active ones) put a lot of time and effort into the car, on top of and occaisionally in spite of their coursework. I can't wait to see how the race turns out. Go Poly!

  7. The problem I have for this race.... by DonaldBeckman817 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem I have for this race is that it allows for very little innovation. Storage of energy via flywheels overnight is prohibited, you are limited on how many batteries you can store, what type you can use, and how you use them. You are prohibited to use any solar nighttime charging, star-light or IR charging, or any other innovative way to charge during off time, as your battery box has to be removed at the end of the day and impounded. You are also limited of which type of solar cell you can use. New processes for solar cells have been invented and are in current commercial production that make it much more efficient per sq foot, but you are limited to using old cut-wafer solar cells that have been around for many years. There is one company making contueous ribbon cells (the 'wafer sheet' is drawn from a solid chunk into a ribbon similar like fiber optic glass is drawn into a string from a solid rod) that would be much better suited to the dimension of a car, but you cant use any of that modern technology. This race if more of a contest of who can make the lightest car body and go the furthest on X amps of battery and solar cells, rather than who can make the best solar technology automobile.

  8. Re:No sun for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Not to mention the race is held only every 2 years, how could there be a last years winner anyway?

  9. Re:what a waste by ferds32 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Quite frankly, you'll never see untested technology being used in these sorts of endevors. Its far more profitable to start a company to research, develop, promote, produce and sell these sorts of technologies.

    I beg to differ. Lake Tuggeranong College used a prototype CSIRO motor during two of their three World Solar Challenge (a similar race heald in Australia). sUNSWift built their own cells (litterally; if you've ever seen solar cells being built this is a huge achievement) and developed their own technique for sealing the cells in composites (i.e. encapsulation). Both these teams developed their own aerodynamics, at least some of their own electronics, own telemetry software and a myriad of other non-trivial engineering tasks. The whole is made up of many smaller parts. What makes these projects special is that they all join together into something terribly nice.

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  10. Aerodynamics? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What surprises me is it looks to me as if these cars are getting less, not more, aerodynamic with time. Take the Eclipse team. Their Eclipse 1 and 2 vehicles look like a solar car I would design - teardrop shape low to the ground with enclosed roadwheels. Their three and four designs are essentially flat plates relatively high above the road with a bubble in the middle for the driver, and in version four the road wheels are unshrouded, and there's no attempt to round off the body edges to reduce vortices.

    The MIT teams evolution is similar if less extreme. The current car is a moderately streamlined high-deck-and-bubble job with its wheels unshrouded. The 1999 car has a similar body but shrouded wheels.

    In fact, more or less streamlined high-deck-and-bubble designs seem to be the theme of this years race. These vehicles look hugely vulnerable to crosswinds.

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    1. Re:Aerodynamics? by |>>? · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be because at low speed, Aerodynamics is mostly a waste of time. If you hit 100km/h, then it begins to matter.

      This is why when Porche made it's self-erecting spoiler, it only popped up at 140km/h - so people started speeding - so Porche did a firmware upgrade to make it come up at 100km/h.

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