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How to Become a PHB?

Vagary asks: "There have been quite a few discussions about becoming a system or network administrator or developer, but in light of recent outsourcing trends it seems prudent to aim for something a little less expendable. What is the ideal education (eg: Master's in CS, MBA in Tech Management?) and entry-level career path (in light of today's job market) to become upper-level IT management such as a CIO or CTO?"

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  1. An ideal education is one you will enjoy... by Codeala · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... because if you base your choice on "current" trends by the time you graduate they will probably be outdated. In Uni I have seen many who only reason to enrol in CS/IT is because of "the money", they have no real interest/passion for the subject. In my option these people will never be good developer/manager.

    My advise is to select those areas/subjects you enjoy and worry about the job market later.

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    Codeala - Just another mindless drone
  2. Not TOO specialized by MrWa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For starters, don't look into getting any MBA that specializes in a specific area. You can, of course, take those courses and do the studying necessary to know a lot about a certain subject (e.g. IT) but you don't want to limit your options or experience. MBA school is not about focusing on one particular subject.

    Build on your experience. We can assume you are in IT already right? Make moves toward supervisory or management roles; show interest and drive; prove that you are already capable. Just showing up one day with a MBA and some IT experience will not cut it. As you move further up the ladder the game is more political than technical. Is that what you really want?

    Do you really want to be a PHB? The rewards a very different - you won't often get the satisfaction of accomplishing something yourself. Unless you like managing and directing people and helping them to accomplish tasks, it isn't for you. The only real reward is knowledge about the strategic goals of the group or company; helping others to grow and better themselves; and, if your really good, inspiring others to do things they wouldn't have done otherwise. And you are probably even more replacable, since the skillset of a manager is easier to obtain (though harder to do well) then that of a technician.

  3. Business cycles by duffbeer703 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's amusing that major companies are blindly outsourcing their businesses to companies in South and East Asia.

    All it takes is an uprising in China or nuke fight between India and Pakistan, and US & European engineers suddenly become a hot commodity again.

    Keep in mind that when ever you choose engineering or technology as a career, you are by default subjecting yourself to the cyclical trends that dominate that kind of industry. If you are looking for stability, be a teacher, policeman or accountant. If you want the big money that comes with the engineering & high-tech fields, accept the risk/reward ratio.

    If you need to ask "How do I get into senior management?" in a forum like this, you probaly don't have the intestinal fortitude to make it past middle management.

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    Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK
  4. No education is uniquely appropriate to management by etymxris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know management that got there from all disciplines and walks of life. You don't get hired into management. You start with gruntwork and slowly demonstrate your ability to lead and manage.

    Most top management I know started in a small company or division that got very large. Being one of the first people there let the pyramid structure of management fill in beneath them.

    If you start out in a very established company that is unlikely to grow, then you are not likely to get promoted anytime soon. Given that not many companies are growing at the moment, this puts your chances of soon becoming a high-level manager very low.

  5. Advice From an IT Manager by afabbro · · Score: 4, Informative
    My advice is in two parts:

    How to Get to Be a Manager: Longevity is probably the easiest route. Eventually you'll get to a spot where there's an opening and you'll have an opportunity to move up. If it doesn't appear to be in the future in your company, then consider looking elsewhere. Most places looking for managers will say "the ideal candidate will have 4-6 years of management experience." Well, that's nice, but until he comes along, here you are with X years of technical leadership, project management, team leading, etc. Don't lie but if you've lead teams of people, etc. then you probably are as good as the next bloke.

    Don't fret about qualifications, etc. Sure, at some point someone will say "what do you think the residual value of this asset will be in three years and would you recommend lease or buy?" At that point you'll say "I don't understand" and go out and learn.

    How to Succeed at Being a Manager: Management requires a radically different skill set than being a programmer or sysadmin. I spent 7 years in Unix sysadmin, rising to Senior Admin, then moved into management. As a techie, your skills are all technical, with some project management and communication (written, presentation) to round you out. As a manager, it's the reverse, with the emphasis on communication and project management, with a whole galaxy of people-management skills and financial skills thrown in.

    The technical part of being a manager is not complicated. Go read some books or take some extension courses. The basics of accounting, budgeting, project tracking, etc. can be quickly learned. Focus on leadership and people skills. That's the heart of management. The rest is just details.

    If you are serious about management, then get an MBA. Be aware that means the full shot: accounting, economics, marketing, etc. There are some quality all-internet programs (Penn State, Arizona State, Auburn, etc.), or executive MBA programs. People with MBAs are not usually managing technical groups, though - they're senior managers or moving towards the executive ranks (or doing financial analysis).

    The "soft" skills you'll need are a lot more difficult - negotiation, handling employee problems, building consensus, resolving disputes, etc. What do you do when someone is underperforming? How do you measure it? Etc. It all sounds easier than it really is. Then there's leadership...both in doing it and taking responsibility.

    As a manager, you will interact a lot more with non-technical people. You also may not like it - do you like going to meetings now? If not, forget management - you might be in meetings all day (meetings seems a constant regardless of organization).

    In closing...techies have long sneered at managers, but frankly it's just as challenging a career path as pure technical paths. I divide managers into those that "get it" and those that don't. Most of those who "get it" are people with technical backgrounds who later went into management.

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  6. PHB for who? by araven · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's no one way, the path to becoming CIO for a Fortune 500 company differs considerably from the path to be CIO for a small organization, or in the public sector.

    Speaking for myself, I did systems administration while I was in school, went to Library School and came out with an M.S.I.S. with a focus in database design. I spent some time in a big corporation as a sysadmin. Then saw a great job as a UNIX admin at a Public Television network associated with a University. In a small pond, it was easy to parlay very very very hard work and my degree into my current IT Director/CIO/CTO position.

    The thing that made all the difference for me was that from day one I didn't hide in my cube with my nose stuck to an X-Window, I volunteered for everything, and showed my very real interest in the entire organization. I got to know people in every department even though I technically didn't have to do any user support at all. Now, that's what I look for in "management material." Everyone I hire can "communicate well" but the ones who might take my job someday are the ones who see how their jobs relate to what the organization is trying to do, and who tell me how they can support those goals better. Prove to the existing management that you understand technology but can also translate it into achieving business goals, and prove that you think of IT as the means, not the end.

    The other thing I managed to do right, I articulated my management philosophy clearly in my interviews. (I've interviewed management candidates who simply cannot tell me what a manager is for!). I told the interviewers in no uncertain terms what I think good managers do, proving that though I had exactly zero previous management experience, that I wouldn't dive in without a clue. For reference, if the interviewers want to hear a philosophy involving squeezing the most out of staff...run. IMHO, management is about supporting your staff, providing them with resources, defending them from abuse, protecting them from distraction, and making resource demands incessently to provide whatever motivation each person needs (far more than "salary" in most cases).

    So I guess I suggest picking the kind of organization you want to go to, seeing what kind of qualifications they look for in a PHB, and really loving and believing in the places you apply. (you'll need to, a good PHB works more hours than her subordinates). Then go outside your job description and prove that IT can make things better, not just more expensive. And all the while, think about the best and worst bosses you've ever had and come up with hiring and retention strategies, and a solid management philosophy of your own (I never read a management book) and be ready to articulate it, then to live it.

    Realize this though, once you're a PHB, you will not have time to be a technologist anymore. What's more, your staff will see it as unwelcome micromanagement. If you can't give up the root passwords, then don't become an executive. You'll only hate it. Satisfy your technical cravings at home.

    My $.02

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    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." -Emerson
  7. Mistaken assumption by n9hmg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article calls a PHB "something a little less expendable"
    The economy is leaning out (internal combustion engine expression). They're still cutting jobs while production is going up. I'm guessing that this is mostly by eating their seed stock, but there's still a lot of pressure to eliminate non-contributing positions. One of my few consolations in this current layoff is that the fool who chose me as the person to cut within the two choices he had, then had to pay to relocate a much less-competent replacement for me(the company never brings back discarded talent) is now in a death spiral caused mostly by that stupidity.
    I think the current pressure will make the PHB an endangered species. We'll still have good managers (mine got booted in the wave before me, and I spent two months unmanaged), but actual PHB-types will finally be doing what they're qualified for - closing shift at Booger Fling.

  8. How Does One Mount a Wild Elephant? by Vagary · · Score: 3

    I'm not sure I can handle the risk, but I figure it's best to try while I'm young and dependent-free. But all my CS friends who recently graduated are having a hell of a time finding entry-level programmer positions, so I got to wondering whether there's another path...

    I can't even figure out how to put myself at risk. :)

    1. Re:How Does One Mount a Wild Elephant? by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > How Does One Mount a Wild Elephant?

      Easy!

      # mount -F wild -o rdonly /dev/elephant /archives

  9. Ask Yourself: "Is It Good for the Company?" by Vagary · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So basically: network within your org, and start thinking like a manager long before you need to. Figure out what kind of manager you're going to be in advance. Chose a place where you can enjoy doing all of that. And make sure you really want it. :)

    Thanks, that's exactly the kind of advice I was hoping for!

    1. Re:Ask Yourself: "Is It Good for the Company?" by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Worth noting :

      A few years ago I was in a discussion with the VP of Engineering, he and I had several years of 'good ol boy' networking before he was promoted. We were discussing moving me into the management position of the IT division of the company (wasn't a large company) and my first impulse was to fire a few of the losers / slackers and replace them with hard core performers (like I envisioned myself.)

      His next words were

      'Any clown can succeed as a manager given unlimited resources and a hand picked team of winners, I need you to succeed with the seemingly insufficient resources and losers / slackers that currently make up your team.'

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      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
  10. I Googled for it... by Satan's+Librarian · · Score: 2, Funny
    Brush your teeth often, read your RFC's, and combine dried potassium phenoxide with 20 atmosphere (atm) dry carbon dioxide at 250c, at least according to Google .

    Or, you could just get a mohawk and go here, but they don't want to hire you either.

    Of course, if what you're asking is what are steps one through three of:

    1. ?????
    2. ?????
    3. ?????
    4. Profit!

    Unless you get really lucky, you're probably stuck with 1.) learn as much as you can, 2.) think about it, and 3.) work hard at it - regardless of what the 'hottest job' is at the time.

    Find something you can do well and enjoy - it makes it easier.

  11. I suggest a new career field... by flockofseagulls · · Score: 3, Funny

    Look into teeth whitening and antifungal treatments. You can start right here on slashdot.

    You can also get a law degree right here, just read all the posts about licenses and copyrights.

  12. Take an ethics course by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Take every ethics course your university offers.
    Take your business theory courses.

    Then you know what to violate.

    Unfortunately, that seems to be the way to become a manager in this world.

  13. Surgury by macemoneta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure a pre-frontal lobotomy is required, but the tricky part is having your moral center removed.

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    Can You Say Linux? I Knew That You Could.

  14. Re:intestinal fortitude (advice from a CEO) by duffbeer703 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Someone who is going to be a senior manager or business owner doesn't need to be told that -- they just do it.

    That's the difference between the guy running a company and the guy sitting in a cube.

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    Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK