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White House Obfuscates Email

markgo2k writes "Do you want to email the president? This John Markoff, New York Times story (reprinted here in the non-subscription Seattle PI) details how the White House no longer promises to read anything you send to president@whitehouse.gov. Instead, you must navigate a multi-page website AND confirm your submission via email. Oh, and they only want to talk about subjects that are of interest to them." The web-form system appears to be a bit overloaded at the moment.

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  1. which movie? by mcgregorj · · Score: 5, Funny

    "When it comes to a Web site, it's a bit like a movie," Mr. Orr said. "Some will say it's a tour de force; some will say it fell flat."

    This website must be "Cabin Boy."

  2. Hmm by deman1985 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't find it very encouraging that the government doesn't promise to read anything we have to say anymore. Isn't it their job to listen to what the public has to say to make informed decisions for the good of the country? What are we paying them for?

  3. Waste of the President's time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't imagine why anyone would think the president of the United States would bother to read unsolicited email.

    1. Re:Waste of the President's time. by gilroy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Blockquoth the poster:

      I can't imagine why anyone would think the president of the United States would bother to read unsolicited email.

      OK, so I assume you disregard as "unsolicited" any email that comes from your bosses, too...
  4. Re:I'd rather not have to deal with the DOJ... by sosume · · Score: 5, Funny

    The "Against Us" email automatically get forwarded to Ashcroft.

    Gueass again where that's going.. (and you along with it).. ever been to Cuba? I heard it's got this lovely bay with lots of friendly people in orange suits. Gua .. Guanta .. I can't remember. ;)

  5. Because... by Scalli0n · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is probably because emailing is 1000x easier than:

    a) Mailing
    b) Phoneing (being on hold for hours then talking to a nobody)
    c) It gives you a warm happy feeling.

    So why shouldn't they filter out their most popular form of communication given that most of it is crap anyway?

    That, and my second point:

    You shouldn't be emailing your most important concerns to the president - do your congressman, your senator, and your local government, they can probably help you more specifically.

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  6. convenient by salzbrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is really convenient to have the political opinions of your citizens stored in a database together with name, (e-mail-)address and the like!

  7. Deluges of mail by AndyBusch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can appriciate the need for them to implement a "confirmation" action (Did you send this?), to stop spoofing, spamming, etc. However, the "pre-email questionaire" seems a little extreme. I suppose the goal is to ask "are you an insightful commentator or a raving lunatic?", but it takes a "are you a patriot or a terrorist?" tone about it.

    Of course, it's now harder to complain to them about it, as well.

    1. re: deluges of mail by ed.han · · Score: 5, Funny

      perhaps the admin staff who pre-sort the e-mails use a variant of the slashdot moderation system and the president only sees the ones rated +5. i can just imagine the modifiers now...

      +1 campaign donor
      -1 civil liberties kook
      +1 convenient ally
      -1 democrat
      -1 libertarian
      +1 republican
      +1 useful tool

      ed

  8. Re:I'd rather not have to deal with the DOJ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about a question regarding policy? I mean how can you know whether you are for or against the policy of the administration if they haven't said anything about some important issue?

    The Bush administration doesn't talk much about policies in the Middle East except those related to Iraq or to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Try asking about Israel's nuclear weapons.

    Or Saudi Arabia - definitely intimately involved with Al-Quaeda, unlike Iraq.

  9. Barriers to entry by XianDeath · · Score: 5, Informative
    I noticed this policy the other day while looking for a method of having the daily press briefings emailed to me. I believe this is really just a form of crowd control. The easier it is to contact your elected official, the more often you'll do so. Make the barrier to entry higher, i.e. a phone call which costs you money, and you raise the barrier to entry. I can imagine how many emails they get a day especially since they're probably on every spam email list in the world.

    On a side note, for what it's worth, the daily press briefings contain more 'hard' news than I see in the average evening news broadcast. (On a politically snider note, it's also much easier to understand how bad off things are when you can actually read the daily obfuscations with your own eyes, and in most cases, watch them in streaming video sans interepretation by talking heads.)

    Also, say what you will about Clinton, but he was the first president to really make an effort at utilizing the internet to diseminate information regarding the executive branch, though granted he was the first president of the 'internet era.' There are several cool innovations he made and several excellent articles over at Slate regarding the White House web (Article #1 and Article #2) historically.

  10. Re:I'd rather not have to deal with the DOJ... by arkanes · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Please check this box if you'd like to be contacted by the President or his authorized partners regarding special offers and discounts only available to our valued subscribers"

  11. Re:We've come a long way baby by cybercuzco · · Score: 5, Informative

    He was an accessible private citizen until he got shot. Then he wasnt quite asacessible as before, but could still ride about in the open, Until another one got shot. Now his freedom is curtailed in the name of security, and he has neither security or freedom.

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  12. Re:I'd rather not have to deal with the DOJ... by ajs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your comment is funny. The situation is not, though. This has been the case with congress-critturs for a decade or more as well. They get paper mail, faxes, what-have-you and sort them into two piles for each major issue (pro or con) and then measure the height of those piles. If the content is too complex to interpret quickly, it is junked.

    Contributors to the campaign, friends and relatives have other means of reaching these people, the public points of access are just garbage chutes for straw-polling and allowing the Secret Service to gather and track death-threats and such.

    This is not ALWAYS true, but from talking to people who have worked on The Hill, I'm certain that it is the case far, far more often than not.

    One time, I sent mail about Echelon to my Senetor. I was frankly stunned and awed to the point of voting for him in the next election because I got back a letter than addressed what I had said, and outlined what he had done as a result, and what the results of his actions were.

    It wasn't a lot, just one page and not a lot of action as a result, but the fact that this Senetor cared about the concerns of a constituent got MY vote! I urge you to discuss the things that matter to you with your representitive government, and when they work on your behalf (not just send you a form "Yes, this is a pressing issue which all Americans should vote for me over") you should reward them by voting for them.

  13. Re:We've come a long way baby by mvpll · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if another one gets shot, will they declare firearms a valid method of casting your vote or just give the whole "president" thing a miss?

  14. Re:I'd rather not have to deal with the DOJ... by Flamed+to+a+Crisp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you were really serious about getting a message through to the "president" I would check "supporting comment," then say something nice about him (if you can think of anything) and then offer some "supportive criticism." This method actually works for me on a regular basis. (Although I haven't tried it in the scenario) It saves me lots of stress and the other person is more likely to listen.

    However, if you just want to send flaming messages, that's a different story.

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  15. Re: we've come a long way baby by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Other than that its right.

    Frankly ive always felt that unless the cause for war is good enough for the commander in chief to pick up a gun and lead the troops off to battle in the name of truth and honor and whatever else he might be fighting for, then its not a good enough reason to send a single lowly infantryman.

    But maybe I hold warmongers to too high of a standard? Ya know, thinking the onus should be on them to justify their actions, inisting they be truthfull in their assertions and even to back them up. You know, silly things like that.

    I don't think leading the troops is too much to ask. Afterall, How can you give an order that would cause people to die if your not willing and ready to be counted among the dead?

    Guess you could say I just think hes a yellow bellied coward more than anything. War is easy. Diplomacy I guess is pretty hard.

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  16. Re:We've come a long way baby by welshsocialist · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually, one did. First was McKinley, then Kennedy, then Reagan. The only difference being that Reagan survived.

    Looks like someone slept through history class. The first attempt on a President was Jackson in 1835. Lincoln was killed in 1865 by Booth, an actor. The next President to be shot was Garfield in 1881 by Charles J. Guiteau, a disappoined unemployed guy. The next assassination happened in 1901 when McKinley was shot by Leon Czolgosz, an anarchist. Between 1901 and when Kennedy was shot in 1963 by Lee Oswald, there were two attempts on Presidents. One happened in 1912 against former President Theodore Roosevelt on a campaign stop. The second happened against Franklin Roosevelt in 1933. The shots missed Roosevelt but killed Anton Cermak, the Mayor of Chicago. After Kennedy's death, there were three attempts on a Presidents life. The first two happened in September 1975 against Gerald Ford while in California. The third happened against Reagan in 1981.


    BTW, I am an history geek!

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