Bad Testing Doomed NASA's Hypersonic X-43A
RobertB-DC writes "Space.com got hold of NASA's yet-to-be-released report on the June 2001 failure of the air-breathing X-43A hypersonic research vehicle, and it doesn't look good for 'Faster, Better, Cheaper'. The report refuses to single out any one contributing factor, but it cites ground testing 'inaccuracies' and 'misinterpretation' of wind tunnel data -- in particular, failure to retest the vehicle after additional heat protection was added. As noted in the original Slashdot article, the craft went out of control when the fins broke off just seconds into flight."
I worked for one of the companies involved in this program, although not directly on the program itself.
Let's see, we've got a scramjet test aircraft, which will be boosted to hypersonic speeds by a modified Pegasus rocket, which will be dropped from a B-52. So, besides developing the scramjet test aircraft, an interface system between the Pegasus and the X-43A needs to be designed and the whole system tested.
That didn't bother me too much. What really got me was what the point of the program was in the first place. The goal was to test the ability of a scramjet engine to propel an aircraft at hypersonic speeds. The Pegasus booster was supposed to accelerate the test aircraft to hypersonic speeds, then detach, at which point the scramjet would be started and the instrumentation would transmit 10 seconds of data. Besides the limited amount of data, if I recall correctly, the scramjet was not supposed to even maintain the aircraft's speed, which calls into question the value of the technology as a means of propulsion, in my opinion.
If I recall, the contract value was $33 million, and was significantly overrun. Your tax dollars at work (if you're American).
They'll get my encryption algorithm when they pry it from my cold, dead hard drive.
First off... this is my own opinion only, and does not reflect the attitude or thoughts of my employer.... with that said: ...come on... you can do it... put 1 and 1 together... NASA straps their research vehicle to the nose of Orbitals delivery system -- the launch vehicle... OH, is the light dawning yet?... what does the report indicate is the problem? was it the hypersonic vehicle that failed?? NO MORONS, it DOESN'T say that... the VEHICLE never got to the test range!! NASA never got to TEST the friggin vehicle in the first place.
...but like always... you never hear about NASA's THOUSANDS of achievements... I'm willing to bet that most of you can't name a single thing that NASA has contributed to the US technological community...why is that? maybe it's because those achievements never get air time. Achievements aren't juicy enough for the media... Media gets more attention when it focus's on NASA's failures... When was the last time you heard a news organization extolling the virtues of NASA?
I'm not sure whether to be pleased that someone actually took the time to locate a report that's been out for almost three months, or irritated that they (space.com) are completely misleading the public as to the cause and who's to blame for the defect (or that somehow they're privy to information that's available to everyone) which resulted in NASA having to terminate the Launch and Research Vehicle (X43A). On top of that, it's rediculous to post it to a forum like this. Reality check folks... This is a proven technology (hypersonic ram/scramjet engines) which has a large application base, and WILL provide faster, cheaper and cleaner access to space. I appreciate (not really) the folks that seem to get off on putting down NASA's achievments, or summing the work NASA does up to the moon landing (...and depending on who you listen to apparently we made that up too... -- that's sarcasm in case you didn't pick up on it.) If anyone of you has a moment to actually read the MIB report... and more over has the intellectual capacity to understand it (Lord knows no one's displayed that capability here, or at space.com), then you should understand where blame should be placed. The main portion of NASA's work was with the X-43A VEHICLE, and the subcontractor ORBITAL was supposed to provide a delivery system which would get NASA's RESEARCH VEHICLE to the test range. For those of you who can't quite put it all together,
All this criticism of NASA as "incapable", or "no longer with it"... to you folks I say PISS OFF... you have no clue what you're talking about. The X-43 folks are anything but sloppy at the research they do; the managment is outstanding, and the technical expertise is the best in the world.
To folks that think that NASA is just a big bureaucracy; you're absolutely right. They are, just like any other organization that does bleeding edge research and provides outstanding technical work to the US government. Any organization that does the kind of experimental research that NASA does (look around, there aren't any) has to have a legitimate infrastructure in place to handle the costs and managment structure that large experiments have. There is NO way around this, and anyone who thinks there is, is a fool.
To those of you who doubt that the X-43A vehicle will fly... PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEWS IN OCTOBER!
It's a very old urban legend. As far as I can tell, the chickecn cannon was developed in the UK to test the De Havilland Comet.
Apollo wasn't as expensive as you might think. According to this NASA page, total funding for the Apollo program was less than 20 billion dollars (which would equal about 100 billion of today's dollars).
In contrast to that, last year's US GDP was about USD 10 trillion. It's just a matter of will - the state's administration doesn't really have an interest in space exploration.
Don't whistle while you're pissing.
The total cost of the Apollo program was $19.4b.
This is the total program cost starting from 1965 (or was it 1964?) to 1972. Let's assume that the year 1969 was the year with the highest spending, say one quarter of the total sum, ie $4.9b.
The nominal GDP of the USA in the year 1969 was 3928.7b.
Therefore, at its peak, Apollo consumed approximately 0.12% of the GDP of the US.
I think you might be referring to the nuclear program during and after that World War II. That was expensive! (I've got no numbers though)
I haven't seen that particular report, but just to clarify what I know, the failure wasn't in the X-43 hypersonic vehicle but in the Pegasus launch booster, built by Orbital Sciences. Apparently the Pegasus was built to be launched at 40,000 feet, however in the first test it was launched at 20,000 feet. The increased air density and aerodynamic loading at this altitude caused a structural failure in a stabilising fin on the booster, not the X-43 craft itself, which remains unproven.