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Police Target Free Email

Red Wolf writes "The Australian Federal Police are talking with the major free email providers in the hope of making it easier to trace suspects who use the accounts for crimes like fraud and paedophilia."

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  1. A good point by boogy+nightmare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lets face it, in out time we have all had the free email addy's from these places, i mean i have had (too name but a few)

    hotmail.com
    yahoo.com
    lycos.co.uk
    britneyspea rs.com (freaked a few people out)
    fcuk-me.co.uk
    etcetc

    how many of the other big name free email providers out there are gleefully handing out any details that you registered (like any were real) and say to the cops

    "theres an adress here you might want to check something_horrible@some-email.com" and then the police sit there and track all the emails for a while.

    How much worse would this be is you encrypted your emails so it looked really suspicious ?

    Are there any really good free web based email clients out there that you can suggest where this thing might not be an issue, what do you use ?????

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  2. Now it's personal by defishguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have kids and I am speaking as a dad... I'm as paranoid of government as the next XFiles fan however, there comes a point in society where people should be accountable to others in that society. In the case of child pornograhpy accountability should be pressed in as many directions as possible. Let's face it while as another /.er noted that paedophilia isn't a crime it IS for the most part only paedophiliacs that commit those crimes. Any institutions or services that actively would seek to protect the identities of people that advance an inconceivably horrible agenda should also be liable under law. Kudos to any company that helps keep predators at bay.

    1. Re:Now it's personal by defishguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a LITTLE over-reactive isn't it? Did I even IMPLY that those extremes are needed? The answer is no and emphatically no. I want a degree of compliance for investigators. No one anywhere will get 100% privacy. I don't and you don't. Let's come to grips with reality here. I viscously defend my privacy where possible with PGP and many tools. However we are talking about people already under investigation for crimes, and what right do they have to have another agency protect their right to commit those crimes?

    2. Re:Now it's personal by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Are liquor company execs usually alcoholics?

      Are drug pushers usually drug addicts?

      Are people who create child porn usually pedophiles?

      Or is it just about profit?

      You seem to be saying that you are paranoid of government intrusion, but at the same time, you want to take away the rights of people who haven't been convicted of any crimes.

      That is a huge contradiction. Why should pedophiles be the victims of a witch hunt if they have done nothing wrong?

      The simple fact is that pedophilia is not a crime. Pedophilia is what you are, not what you do. And you know, rape is often more about power than sex. What makes you think that most people who rape children are really pedophiles? You don't think it could have something to do with the fact that children are easier to keep quiet? Easy targets, for anyone with a twisted mind?

      Does being a heterosexual man mean that you go around raping women? Should every heterosexual man have to register somewhere to "help keep predators at bay"?

      It seems that you are just one of those "freedom and human rights for all, except if they are something I don't like" people. You are as dangerous to democracy and human rights as any oppressive government. You are the kind that gets these governments into power in the first place.

      The bottom line is that if you are a pedophile but not convicted of any crime, there is no reason why you shouldn't have the exact same rights as anyone else. Say otherwise, and you are a hypocrite and a supporter of a Big Brother society where the government can pretty much do as it pleases to keep the people down.

      Pedophiles have the exact same rights as everyone else to protect their identities, unless they have been convicted of a crime.

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  3. This won't work out by lennart78 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use free email accounts to keep spam away from my regular email addresses. I also like to keep spam away from my physical address. So when I sign up for a free email address, I use a fake physical address. I don't trust these guys with my real email address, why should I hand them my physical address and (cell)phone number to boot?

    Likewise, if you have a criminal intent and use a free address to stay anonymous, you won't give your real physical address unless you're really stupid. But then they won't need that info to track you down, as you probably allready posed for a security camera, and left your wallet on the scene of the crime....

  4. Re:This is good news! by fireman+sam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When has the fact that something has legitamate uses stop the authorities/companies from making it illegal.

    ie: DeCSS
    Lock picks / slimjims (is that one or two words?)
    Guns
    Knives
    Crossbows (They ARE illegal in Australia excl Victoria)

    I once knew a guy at my school who had his head bashed in with a hammer. Maybe we will have to go back to hitting nails with rocks (nope, they should be banned too because they can kill).

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  5. Re:He has a point. by WegianWarrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just like beeing an alcholic doesn't mean you're a drunk. If someone live out their alcoholism, s/he will become a drunk - if someone live out their paedofiliact tendencies, s/he will become a childmolester.

    Please do not interprent the avbove statement as as defence for paedofiliacs. I find the idea sick and twisted - but I aslo belive that like beeing homosexual, some people just can't control what they are turned on by. Controlling their urges on the other hand, is something all grown-ups should and could be capable of.

    Beeing a peadofile is a bit like beeing an alcoholic. If you got it, you have a problem you must work with to overcome.

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  6. Re:They'll just move by Molina+the+Bofh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Don't forget that it has already been demonstrated that intelligence is an universal constant, and the number of people on Earth tends to rise.

    So, for technology-aware people, that commits the most serious crimes (specially fraud), this step will be mostly ineffective, yes.

    But there have been lots of people who got arrested because they believed that they couldn't be traced back if they were using an anonymous service. Usually related to smaller felonies, like harassment, threatening, etc.

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  7. Ultimate logical step? by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No running - or writing, or trafficking in - SMTP and POP3 software without a World Government licence, you GNU/lunix using terrorist.

    When (if ever) will Plod realise that it's all just IP packets, and that anybody in the world can run any service they want? You want to ban anonymous email? Right, you go ahead and try and find my SMTP server running behind my firewall and accepting SSL encrypted connections from my friends over a non standard port and logging to /dev/null. And at least I know I'm doing that. How are you going to find and stop all the Joe Sixpack trojaned machines running SMTP proxies, all across the globe?

    These guys are either breathtakingly ignorant, or are wilfully trolling. Budget time again, huh?

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  8. Australia a technology TryHard by coldascold · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Australian Government has no idea how to handle matters,We as Australians are presented with gifts(Internet)therfore we think that we have the right to control these gifts and know how to opperate them as we imported some US IT professional to teach us.(lots of room for expansion in our local IT professionals Heads)

    We have a task force that deals with Nigerian Scams and public complaints in regard to loosing money therfore as the comment says they want premium access to information from anyone and everyone.(make them pay big $$$$ in administration is a great start)
    If you are a free e-mail provider please think before you act on behalf or possibly cooperate with Australian loosers,They are very small and many have noidea what a line of HTML is that run our policing/crime system.

    In the spam department I have been an Innocent Victum via Hotmail of which I replied to a bulk mail by mistake and had my account terminated without question.
    I could go to jail for this if Australia had anything to do with the way things are run.
    The latter dose not matter as my spam dose cost many a ISP in being blocked and hence alot of cash however Australians certainly have noidea WHY spams happens or why crime happenes.

    Identification to use the Internet is Australias best chance of battling against the whole world and its self to combat computer crime.
    We are being banned from certain TV stations which means certain imports so I see no reason as to why they should not start restricting Internet unless you have a passport.
    They are just plain dumb.
    I contacted my Local Australian Police about thousands of dollars in Illegal software with a full traceout and address and information on how to track this market down as they never even moved from their seat.
    The e-mail was opened for 3 secs then deleted.

  9. Privacy versus security... by xtrucial · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmm... normally I'm staunching pro-privacy. However, situations like what happened to me this morning make me concerned: I received a very realistic, but forged, email purporting to be from Wells Fargo (my bank, and the most popular bank in my region of the US). In actuality (SpamCop helped me analyze the headers), it was being routed through a Korean ISP and contained a ".pif" attachment. I run Linux, so it didn't affect me much. But a not-so-savvy Windows users double-clicking their alleged "Business Account Application" could be in trouble. Until we get people to switch en masse from SMTP and/or to use more sophisticated email clients, this stuff is going to continue.

  10. Why Australia by sharkdba · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's a question that's been bothering me for a while: why the stories from Australia? I mean, if you watch "regular" world news, Australia is practically NEVER on the news radar. Last time I remember it being mentioned is when the list of countries supporting US war on Iraq was listed.

    And yet, on /. Australia appears if not daily, then certainly several times a week (usually censorship, ISP, firewalls, etc. stories). So what gives? Here's a few of my theories:

    • 1. There's a very active Australian /. submitter out there,
    • 2. Australia has a very oppressive government which tries various things to control/censor its citizens,
    • 3. CowboyNeal (and/or Hemos and/or some other /. editor) thinks Australia is just another US state...
    • 4. Other?
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