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The RIAA's Hit List Named
Carpoolio writes "TechTV is the first I've seen to name names in the fight between the RIAA and music downloaders. Using an online court records search service, they've found a number of the subpoenas served by the RIAA to ISPs, which will ultimately end in lawsuits for the people named on this list. Right now, they've published a number of the P2P user names filed with the US District Court in Washington, DC, mainly Kazaa users. Are you on the list?"
I live in the UK, can these lawsuits be filed over here from the RIAA?
They named the default username given to those who install Kazaa Lite...
So I wonder how many people that covers?
I wonder how all this is going to play out... I'm guessing most will settle out of court like that guy they cite (who paid $12000).
;) What's the lifetime value of a consumer to RIAA? I imagine it is less than $12000...
RIAA will probably make more out of lawsuit settlements than through their music
KoalaBear33
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It's been well established that I'm paranoid, but is anyone else bothered by the number of (apparent) True Names in the list?
Not that I'm on the list, but do they intend to catch the person who actually created the account, but may not have downloaded any copyrighted material, but inadvertently forgotten to log off? Failing to log off isn't a crime by itself, nor should you be responsible if your account was used for illegal activity, unknown to you.
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If you are on the list do everyone a favor including yourself and let us know here. Keep us up to date on what's occuring and how you intend to fight it. Maybe the community here can help or atleast offer solid advice on how to proceed.
If I were to end up on the list I'd damn sure let everyone know and I'd fight it with everything I have.
Remember don't fund an entity that will only sue you into financial ruin. We can hurt them where it hurts them most...in the wallet. This is the only way to make a statement. Once these lawsuits start then the shit is really going to hit the fan and the backlash will be severe.
Think of it this way...what's more important violent crime or copyright violations? Well the RIAA is sending out so many subpoenas without judicial oversight I might add that court systems are having to redistribute their workers to cover the overwhelming workload. That means less work on violent, horrible crimes and more work on copyright infractions? This is beyond ridiculous!
Join the boycott starting August 1-30th and do not buy any music in this period.
Here's a list of who to boycott Boycott List
Here's the products to boycott Products to Boycott
You aren't free to do anything, until you've lost everything.
My old apartment complex at the college (I've since graduated and last weekend moved) had a firewall that showed everybody as from the same ip address... good luck to them trying to figure out why some of their top sharers were all from whatever ip we showed as (if there were anybody from there on that list).
I'm sure some other places are similar too. The college itself recently changed their network to do a similar thing for all their dorm connections.
Suck on that, RIAA!
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world... those who understand binary and those who don't
Since www.k_lite.tk_Kazaa_Lite@Kazaa is listed, is anyone that used Kazaa Lite gonna get sued? Or is it the company KazaaLite that they are going after?
I'm pretty sure that they ruled that since the filesharing services could be used for other things, they can't really go after KazaaLite... but what about the users?
Are there (accurate) logs of everyone who has ever used KazzaLite? Should we worry?
Tibbon
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A little off topic, but on the subject of the RIAA.
...," he said. "It is the fans that drive the success of the music business; I wish this would not be forgotten."
Michael Jackson has denounced the RIAA
couple o' quotes:
"I am speechless about the idea of putting music fans in jail for downloading music. It is wrong to download, but the answer cannot be jail,"
"Here in America we create new opportunities out of adversity, not punitive laws
It's not surprising that I actually had to do a search to find the story, although it was on the front page yesterday. It's not even on the entertainment page anymore.
1) You use an internet cafe or wireless hotspot that takes cash payment for the time that you use
2) You use a free wireless access network (you know trading MP3's while at the baseball game mentioned in recent post)
3) You use somebody else's network (An unsecured wireless network, etc)
4) Your ISP doesn't keep good records
I imagine most of these people can eventually be traced to a person, but I'm sure more than a few are getting away with it.
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Failing to log off isn't a crime by itself
At the risk of telling boring old war stories, I attended a military college where one sad soul forgot to log his machine off. Someone found the machine and used it to send a vulgar message to the universal e-mail alias, including the commandant, director of cadets, and professors, on down to the lowliest first year. In true military fashion, they made no attempt to find the real author of the e-mail, but instead threatened to court martial the guy who left the computer logged on, for violating security rules. Eventually he avoided court martial, but was given a severe administrative punishment.
Toronto-area transit rider? Rate your ride.
Although it doesn't suprise anyone, they're capitalizing on KazzaLite to drive their scare tactic machine. How many people do you think that were using KazzaLite (and stupidly using the default name) are scared shitless now? Quite a few thousand I would venture to say.
The RIAA basically just knocked out thousands (possibly millions) of glass houses with a pebble rock.
More than likely, Kazaa users spend more, on the average, on cd's than non-kazaa users. Granted, there are some inviduals who'll download everything and never buy a single CD, but these are the type who wouldn't have bought the cd anyways -- they'd have just copied a friends.
.or at least most of them are.
I honestly believe that the majority of file-swappers spend MORE money on cd's than they would otherwise.
These ARE thier customers that they are suing . .
That is copyright theft.
Thanks for the clarification. But it still doesn't matter jack squat. When the media talks about "theft" in the context of file-sharing, everyone knows they're talking about the mass copyright-infringement of media that happens on p2p networks.
What you're doing here is nit-picking because of sour grapes. There's no substantial damage being done to society because of these misappropriation of terms, since everyone knows they are talking about copyright infringement. And in court, the file sharers will be SUED under copyright infringement. Not theft, not copyright theft, not grand theft, but copyright infringement.
headline - RIAA sues the Universities
slashdot - that's bullshit, they should be suing the file-sharers! why do they keep getting it wrong? assholes!
headline - RIAA sues the P2P software makers
slashdot - that's bullshit, they should be suing the file-sharers! why do they keep getting it wrong? assholes!
headline - RIAA sues the ISPs
slashdot - that's bullshit, they should be suing the file-sharers! why do they keep getting it wrong? assholes!
headline - RIAA sues the file-sharers
slashdot - that's bullshit, they should uh.. uh.. uh.. stop using the term "theft"! why do they keep getting it wrong? assholes!
First off, the entire list of potential defendents should be public record and available for free. But that's another story...
But who the hell is being sued? Is the RIAA suing downloaders or sharers -- or both? Is the RIAA really selectively choosing defendents based on the particular songs? If I download an MP3 of an unsigned local band or an independent whose music is not owned by the RIAA, will the RIAA sue me anyway?
I'd like to see these details. They speak to the ultimate motive of the lawsuit, especially if it appears that the RIAA is intentionally trying to flatten the independent music scene or prevent artists from choosing production/distribution by an entity other than the RIAA and its members.
Incidentally, Munkeyspankers 1-20 can hide out at my place until the heat blows over. #21 is SOL.
Get a wireless router
Reformat and securely erase your harddrives
Claim that somebody taped into your wireless router and was using it routinely
How could they prove you were lying?
Why, o why must the sky fall when I've learned to fly?
What am I going to do about it? Nothing. They can keep sending legal threats, but I will simply ignore them. Arrest warrents?? Pfft. Most cops will not even bother to take someone in for something so stupid. I don't have the time to download movies and music, I simply have plenty of server space and fast connections. I'm doing a public service, and a major disservice to the RIAA/MPAA by moving 100+ Gb a month. Half the stuff that moves through is junk that I would never even want to watch or listen too.
I'm not going to go on about how unfair it all is, I don't even care. I know that what I'm doing is wrong, and I will continue to do it because I know it pisses people off. This is an ideal hobby, especially since it's lower risk, and less time-intensive than pushing dope to kids.
And boycott . Ha! Sounds just like that stupid 'don't buy gas on April 23rd and we'll show those rich fat-cats who's in charge'. Even if such a boycott took off, the RIAA would simply absorb the loss, then attribute it to more filesharing. Way to go! That'll show 'em!
One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
All I can say is that this shit makes me feel kinda ill.
It's just, damnit it's not right. I didn't think I could hate the RIAA any more than I did, but seeing this shit's happening just makes it all the worse.
I swear, if I ever get signed to a label I want to make sure in my contract it says the RIAA have no rights to sue over anyone downloading my music!
(I'd do it unsigned but I couldn't afford to get by that way, which makes me feel even better...)
If you want to trade content anonymously then I suggest you use Freenet. It's priorities are anonymous first, and speed second ;). A link with more
information is found here:
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http://freenet.sourceforge.net/
Also you might consider donating money, so the progress is faster. They already have a full time programmer paid for by donations, but they are always in need of more:
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=don
I know that many librarians, after the Patriot act was passed, started to destroy circulation records daily - it wasn't illegal for them to do it, and they felt very strongly that the government shouldn't be able to see what books people were getting. (Incidentally, this is a tragedy in some literary circles since a popular field of study in literature now is examining old library records from the 18th century onward to see which books were popular during eras past).
These big ISPs, comcast, earthlink, etc. offer unlimited plans, and have no need to record which account is mapped to which IP for anything longer than a day (just to ensure bandwidth usage isn't being abused or something). If they were to have a policy of discarding the records every day at midnight, it would save them hassle (what a pain in the neck it must be to recieve 200 lettes from the RIAA in the morning) and protect thier user's rights. How can they go wrong?
Hey thats the ticket.
Create a virus that goes to screwed up machines and installs P2P software.
Then systematicaly download VALID mp3 files from the P2P network and share them with the world.
Then the RIAA can have lots of people to mess with.
What I dont get though..why is it illegal to share files you have on your computer? You are not doing anything illegal. Not like you are sending them to the person. Besides the person knows if they are allowed to download the songs or not!
Just a thought.
earth station 5 is a free p2p program that allows you to download files anonymusly by running through proxies (much like how you surf anonymusly over the internet). i can find most of what i need there. I think its just as good as kazaa except it lacks users (hopefully their population will grow) and they have junk built in it i dont really care much about like dating services etc. you dont have to use the extra stuff of you dont like. there is no spyware/adware. It looks like they may put 2 banners on the bottom that just have their name on it for now but id look a a couple banners for a good anonymus p2p program. -tozzer the illusionist
I have nothing to allude to, and I am alluding to it.
Sorry, I hit HTML formatting instead of text. Here's the letter in a more readable format.
MOTION PICTURE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, INC.
15503 VENTURA BOULEVARD
ENCINO, CALIFORNIA 91436
UNITED STATES
Anti-Piracy Operations
PHONE: (818) 728 - 8127
Email: MPAA@copyright.org <mailto:MPAA@copyright.org>
Tuesday, July 22, 2003
Name: <removed>
E-mail: <removed>
ISP: <removed>
Via Fax/Email
RE: Unauthorized Distribution of Copyrighted Motion Pictures
MPA Case Name: dcc://roached11(galaxynet)@<removed>/ [with IP address: <removed>]
Reference #: 2xxxxxxx5
Date of Infringement: 7/19/2003 3:02:06 PM GMT
Dear <removed>:
The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) represents the following motion picture production and distribution companies:
Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
Disney Enterprises, Inc.
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc.
Paramount Pictures Corporation
TriStar Pictures, Inc.
Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
United Artists Pictures, Inc.
United Artists Corporation
Universal City Studios, LLLP
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
We have received information that you are providing Internet access to and possibly hosting the internet site;
dcc://roached11(galaxynet)@<removed>/
which is offering downloads of copyrighted motion picture(s) including such title(s) as:
28 Days Later
Bruce Almighty
Fast and The Furious 2, The
Hulk, The
Just Married
League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The
Spaceballs
The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted motion pictures constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 106(3). This conduct may also violate the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty obligations.
We request that you immediately do the following:
1) Disable access to this site;
2) Remove this site from your server; and
3) Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse Policy/Terms of Service Agreement.
By copy of this letter, the owner of the above referenced Internet site and/or email account is hereby directed to cease and desist from the conduct complained of herein.
On behalf of the respective owners of the exclusive rights to the copyrighted material at issue in this notice, we hereby state, pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 512, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law.
Also pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owners of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification.
Please contact us at the above listed address or by replying to this email should you have any questions. Kindly include the above noted Reference # in the subject line of all email correspondence.
We thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested.
Respectfully,
Thomas Temple
Director
Worldwide Internet Enforcement
Why worry? Each of us is wearing an unlicensed "nucular" accelerator on his back.
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