Gravity Map of Earth
dr3vil writes "Interesting results have been published by the GRACE (Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment) project, of the various gravity anomolies that exist at various places on Earth. The BBC report gives a good overview. Fascinating for me, a resident of California, to see us apparently sandwiched between a high and a low spot. Maybe that helps aids the tectonic flows around here?"
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BTW, if you want to know how much gravity differs (and how damn sensitive these sats are), look at this chart:
/ 03 _07_GRACE.html
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/gallery/gravity
And note the range of the legend -60 to +60 mGal.
Because variations in gravity are very small, units for gravity surveys are generally
in milligals (mgal) where 1 mgal is one thousandth of 1cm/s
Thats damn sensitive.
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Maybe that helps aids the tectonic flows around here?
Seems to me that the techtonic flows cause, rather than are caused by gravitational differences. Less mass in one area == less gravity, and so forth.
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Looking at the detailed map, it's fair to say that, in the Western Hemisphere, Alaska sucks. Also, Montana seems to suck, and southern Mexico sucks, too. Colombia and Chile, though, really suck.
On the other hand, the Bermuda Triangle totally blows.
Interesting how the map relegates Europe to the fringes... I'm suuuuuuuure it's just because the Prime Meridian happened to cut France in half.
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From what I understand (very little), we already have very sensitive equiptment detecting submarine presence.
Again, I'm trying in vein to remember the source, but I recall listening to a Radio program on how satellites are used to note peculiar wakes in the ocean, and can even differentiate between a submarine and a large whale.
I can't find anything technical on google, but apparently The chinese government was interested enough to steal the info.
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Can't work. Basically you are measuring the denisty/mass differences in large areas (lets even say you can do it down to the centimeter though). So an area that has high mountains, highly dense subsurface is going to have a higher pull from gravity.
A submarine with neutral boyancy (not going up or down, just level) would displace an equivalent volume of water, therefor not change the gravity field around it.
That said, there is no reason why we can't us other things like detecting the change in magnetic flows because a large nuclear reactor just went underneath, and things like that
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If the sub is moving, their is a layer of compressed water on one side, and a layer of slightly less compressed water on the other side (kind of like how radar sees a moving volume). Not to mention any bubbles generated by the spinning prop(s) out back decreasing the density of the water significantly. Question is; can we detect it fast enough to matter? Knowing where a sub was 30min ago is useless.
IIRC, magnetic harmony has already been reached between sub and ocean. I think that was something they did back in the 50's or 60's. Not 100% on that though...
Well, inertially navigated submarines DO have a gravity map of the area they are operating in. At least the one's I was on.
The gravity map values are applied as correction factors to the inertial navigators.
The gyro's are attracted towards denser areas, which causes precession, which is picked up as an incorrect acceleration, and this throws the position of the inertial navigator off.
So we basically aplied a correction signal to keep the gyro's orientated to the correct reference planes in the math model so the 'real' accelerations could be correctly calculated.
Sub launches are detected by traditional means; optical satellites, or men/women on the ground in the area.
2 days means nothing in a world full of ICBM's tipped with multiple nuclear warheads.
The link from the parent: http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/gallery/gravity/03 _07_GRACE.html
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Seems one weighs more in california than in new york. Am I the only one who has a great idea for a new 'guaranteed' weight-loss plan to sell on ebay? [running to the US patent office....]
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Grace uses GPS for it's findings.
GPS receivers use a gravity map to aid in their calculations.
Does this mean that Grace can improve it's GPS signals, and iteratively improve upon it's measurements?
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In fact, gravimetric data has been collected from Mars orbiters, although the precision is nothing like what the Texas researchers are doing.
I doubt that gravimetric data will be of much use in high-end physics research, unless it's somehow used to support experiments for the detection of gravitational waves, for instance. The data is very useful for putting better constraints on various models of geodynamics, though.
If you were to fly over the red areas, you would be tugged ever so slightly downwards;
;-)
As opposed to? Yes, in our normal experience, gravity acts as an attractive force.
the blues mark regions where the planet's attraction is much weaker.
"Much weaker"? The entire range corresponds to about 0.1% of Earth's mean gravitational attraction. For comparison, the apparent decrease in local gravity at the equator due to centrifugal force FAR exceeds the differences shown in the linked article (by a factor of about 5, in fact). And even that only changes the local apparent force to 9.78m/s/s.
Then again, I suppose we have separate careers called "journalist" and "scientist" for a reason.
Yeah, water compresses very very slightly. However, the gravity signature of the sub would be way below the noise level. It would be a signature probably much much smaller than a microGal - probably nanoGals (off the cuff estimate). MicroGals are very difficult to measure on land in perfect conditions. In the air over the ocean it would be impossible.
As for doing it with Grace, the data will be far too coarse to detect the sub's anomaly. The anomaly of a sub at periscope depth would be strongest, but the wavelength would only be about as long as the boat. To model it well enough to detect it, you'd have to sample several times across the wavelength. Grace is more likely to have a sample interval measured in kilometers than tens of meters. It would never detect a sub, even if it had a high-amplitude anomaly. It would be noise.
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That's "trying in vain", unless the submarine which you're dealing with is a shrunken one inside a human and Raquel Welch is in it.