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Greece Warned Over Games Ban

Thanks to GameSpot for their article discussing the European Commission's formal warning to Greece over the country's attempt to ban all videogames last year. The article summarizes: "The law stirred up anger and disbelief after it resulted in several arrests and the closure of Internet cafes. Although Greece later clarified that the law only prohibits gambling-related games, the EC was 'unsatisfied' with the response and has sent a formal notice requesting more information." According to a lawyer familiar with the case, "The way the Greek law was drafted was an absolute mess. It was drafted so widely that using a PlayStation at home would amount to a breach of the law - which is ridiculous." Would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling European Commission.

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  1. Re:Oh threatening. by LeftOfCentre · · Score: 2, Informative

    If EU laws are not followed by member states, they can be brought to court and if convicted given very heavy fines.

  2. the law is bad but there are social reasons for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    hello from a country far far away...

    i think that you'll understand that since
    there is an atlantic ocean between us there
    will be some cultural differences, so something
    that appears to you totally unreasonable and
    crazy may well have a good and valid foundation for me

    the law for electronic games was passed because
    many people were addicted to slot (vegas style) machine gambling, the law is not directed
    towards consumer electronic devices in spirit

    but in wording it is and because all our MP's
    (MP = like congressmen in you country) are lawyers and MD and know little about technology the result was a monstrous law that allowed police to confiscate
    all electronic devices that were publicly available
    for rent in shops (e.g. pc of internet-cafes, playstations etc.)

    the police is less educated from MP's about technology so they just applied what they read
    on paper and did no discrimination between slot machines and innocent ps/2 games

    (actually if they went to the full extent of the
    law they would raid every house in greece to
    get all playstations, they were smart enough not to
    do this)

    you will ask, even for slot machines, why is
    so strict control needed ? because greeks
    (hellenes is the corect name btw)) are a bit
    passioned people that get carried away and
    not always think in logic but many times in
    feelings (gambling = lust for money and they
    do not consider that actually the odds are against them, so they bet even their houses with
    the slot machine owner)

    i think you will understand that the government
    had to protect less educated people from losing their
    homes in gambling

    there is also another reason: before that strict law that was issued , there was also another one that only prohibited the slot machines and in general machines that did gambling, well the slot machines owners just covered up the slot machines with innocent games interfaces and covers, with the push of a button they could transform the innocent game into a gambling machine, and they paid bribes to the public servants that supposedly went there to check, they paid them so they did not check the "transform" mechanism

    so because of this situtation where the government
    could not enforce the limits on gambling (you can gamble here but only in casinos and they supposedly check that you are not poor but that is another
    story) and there were thousands of uncontrolled slot machines ripping-off innocent and un-informed people,under directions from the prime minister himself,the strict law was passed (knee-jerk reaction ? maybe)

    of course it was so strict that generated an uproar
    even among computer users here and web-cafe
    owners, so an official "advice" was given to the police not to enforce tha law on web-cafes,
    playstations and in general on anything that was just consumer electronics and not gambling device (the issuing of the advice has helped by newspaper
    articles with content like "if it is a gambling device the screen might look more like a roulette than a freaking chess board")

    one thing you may want to remember from this story
    is that free market/choice and ruthless capitalism may well suit the USA because usually rules are kept and fines and penalties go to people that harm the society but european socialism and state protectionism maybe is better for the weak people overhere so they do not lose their homes to slot machines owners and corrupt public servants

    (of course now you'll ask and how exactly the state
    is going to support the poor people if the employees
    are corrupt ? i do not know but i know that in a free
    choice market (e.g. of gambling ) the un-educated
    people in greece will make always the wrong choice and crooks like casino owners, mass media owners, and mega corp owners will hurry to exploit the bad choice and enslave economically)

    with the story you also got an idea of the distortions the distance and stupitidy of
    journalists puts betw