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Gates Provides Windows Crash Statistic

cybercuzco writes "In an otherwise innocuous article at they NYT (FRRYYY) Bill Gates says that according to error reporting software in windows, 5% of all windows installations crash two or more times every day. Gates goes on to state that Microsoft is looking at charging for some of its software updates that it now distributes for free."

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  1. Charging for updates .... by taniwha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    doesn't that give MS an incentive to leave bugs in?

  2. Re:skewed statistics. by JanneM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The numbers they quote are system crashes, not application crashes. An operating system that allows a user-level app to cause a system crash is poorly designed. It doesn't matter if the fault originated in the OS itself or not.

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  3. Re:Crashing PCs by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    See thats what I dont get about people flaming apple for expensive machines, Im a IT tech for my schoolsystem and constantly I get the go with PC's they are cheaper line, yet in comparison to our iMacs in the elementary and middle schools (mixture of both old and new ones) the computers we fix the most are our budget line Dells of which there are about 200 in comparison to almost 900 macs.

    And those Macs are running on adverage 24 hours a day whereas the PC's are shutdown every night since they seem to crash less than when we did leave them on everyday.

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  4. Re:Cash for updates? by Maserati · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The "10" part is mostly marketing. 10.1 to 10.2 was in no way a mere "point release". Substantial portions of the OS we're rewritten and optimized, plus added a ton of features. Apple doesn't have an obvious page describing just what's new anymore since they're pushing 10.3 now, but the main OS X is loaded with goodies^gpropaganda [1]

    Think of Jaguar as OS X v2.0 and Panther as OS X v3.0 and you'll be all right. That makes the current OS version 2.6.

    WinXP was only a point release to the "kernel" but XP's userland is (supposedly) significantly differnet. Sadly, Win2K's userland was only really needed a point release, and the kernel needed a thorough overhaul [2]

    [1] I just noticed (pause for laughter) that the current technologies page is now highlighting Applescript as a top-level component of the OS, on the same conceptual level as Aqua. Imagine that, an OS that considers scripting and automation to be equally as important as the GUI. That's a nice balance.

    [2] Admittedly only in comparison to operating systems which I'd consider well-designed, which would be almost anything.

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  5. Re:Cash for updates? by fshalor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah... But.. in windows, the machine manages to hang on the simpliest of errors by other programs. And what probably causes those hangs in the 3rd part vendors? Some of those undocumented hooks into the api which haven't been secured/stabilized/coded correctly at MS. At least in linux/BSD/UNIX you usually know what happened, and have a chance of fixing it. I can deal with popup errors, I just want to still be able to work, damn it! It just comes down to what's best for how one works. And how much one is willing to sacrifice for security and stability. Every OS balances between these three pilars. MS can't seem to get all three legs to balance on the floor. :) And now they want us to pay for the wood filler. :)

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  6. The true story by menscher · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Donald Knuth offered to pay a penny for the first bug found in TeX, 2 cents for the second bug, 4 for the third, etc. He has so far paid out $327.67. The finder of the next bug will receive $327.68. See here for details.

    The interesting thing, of course, is that so few bugs have been found. Imagine if M$ had this policy!