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Could You Really Do Better than the USPTO?

lllama asks; "Is there such a thing as an obvious patent? Some ideas are so obvious that they needed to be stated before it's clear how obvious they are. Some are so blindingly simple that maybe a few dead monkeys might not have thought of them first. How would one go about deciding which ideas deserve a patent? Could/Should the patent office open itself up for public voting or moderation? Could a voting system affect how long a patent is grated for? Should the system be allowed to be swayed by public opinion? Should there be another tier of patents that protect IP but cannot be licensed out for money (BSD style patents?)? Given that simply hearing an idea affects how obvious it appears, could a system be devised that would allow an unbiased measure? An Obvious Quotient as such. Is there an obvious other word for 'obvious' that I could be using?"

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  1. The easy answer: by janda · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it implemented in software?

    If so, no patent.

    If it implemented in software and hardware?

    If so, no patent on the software portion.

    Is it implemented entirely in hardware?

    Build a working model of it, and submit it. You might get a patent.

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  2. Pat(ent) Answers... by jrpascucci · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You don't patent an idea...or at least you aren't supported to: you patent the execution of an idea - the 'how'.

    Yes, the system should be allowed to be swayed by public opinion, or at least expert opinion: we make requests for comment to academia, for instance, all the time in plenty of areas of government, why not the patent system?

    The Patent system was designed to reward innovation and further the public good. It's our way of conferring the 'king's monopoly' to those who do something useful. It's supposed to avoid uncreative people making cheap knock-offs of a good implementation and profiting that way, but, it's supposed to be only for a limited period of time, to encourage additional innovation. Given the speed of our economy, a 3-year patent cycle might be just the thing we need to boost it in the 'right way'.

    Other words for obvious might be: trivial, uninteresting, derivative.

    Final note: there's no reason why Patents have to be awarded so statically, or that the government couldn't charge a variable fee.

    For instance, any product that is protected by patents could be required to pay a 5% patent-surcharge (minimum $1k/yr to keep the patent), instead of a static fee of a few hundred dollars.

  3. Gah! How to turn it into the never issuing system by loftwyr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with all of those ideas are the same as the ones we have with slashdot...

    Voting won't work because large compnaies can get people to vote for them through PR and links on the site and all sorts of manipulations.

    Moderation by outsiders is subject to all kinds of abuse. Even without trolls and people just putting an automatic no on everything.

    Most importantly, by putting it up for review to the public, every company's competitors would work their butts off to ensure that patent wasn't granted so they could use the idea themselves.

    An acedemic review of sorts could work with a public request for prior art previous to ussuance but how long should the USPTO wait?

    The system in place is broken but you would have to re-look at the whole idea of intellectual property in order to create a working system.

  4. This just in by Bistronaut · · Score: 3, Funny

    USPTO begins using Slashcode.

    Some of the first patents issued under the new system:

    • Apratus and Method for getting Fir$t P0st!!!
    • Subtle linking to goatse.cx
    • Microsoft Suxors!
    • System for posting polls that BRING BACK THE COWBOYNEAL OPTION
  5. Just try to reproduce the invention. by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hire some qualified practicioners in each field (under strict NDAs). Give them a statement of the problem being solved. If they come up with the same solution within a few days, it's so blatantly obvious that the "inventor" is really trying to patent the problem instead of a solution. While you're at it, start enforcing this:

    It is required that the description be sufficient so that any person of ordinary skill in the pertinent art, science, or area could make and use the invention without extensive experimentation.-- USPTO

    instead of the mountain of gibberish they've accepted to date, and drop the USD 2500.00 "request for ex parte reexamination" fee they demand for pointing out their own mistakes.

    Remember, a patent only promotes progress if the cost of licensing it (plus their share of the USPTO overhead) is less than the cost of every licensee having to independently discover it. Granting monopolies on "inventions" that anyone competent would immediately produce in the ordinary course of their work doesn't benefit anyone productive.