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Australian Federal Court Overturns Legal Modchip Sales
An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday, the Australian Federal Court overruled the previous ruling on modchips in Australia. I am pretty sure the overruled case is the mainstay for the 'legal' use of modchips in Australia (predominantly Linux on the Xbox). Haven't seen this hit the media yet, with the exception of the Australian Financial Review referring to it in the Free Trade Agreement context. The ruling can be found here. Although not a lawyer, it appears the original judgement was made on the basis that Sony did not provide a copy protection system. Also noted is that there is limited commercial use for the mod other than circumvention. Wonder what will happen to modchips for the Xbox, given that it can be argued that running Linux could easily be seen as commercial."
Reader silne adds "According to the article in The Australian's IT section, it's not illegal to possess or use a mod chip, just illegal to sell them. Looks like another win for Sony. Hopefully the ACCC is going to appeal this one." Bigthecat supplies a link to coverage at news.com.au, as well.
They've got a new boss, Graeme Samuel, who is widely perceived as more business-friendly. If mod chips are truly going to be banned, this might be an interesting indicator of whether the ACCC is about to become less of a public enforcer of individuals' rights than before.
..that i should be allowed to create, buy and sell any tool i want, even if that tool can be used for illegal purposes. If the people buying the tool from me use them for illegal purposes, that's illegal, but THEY are the ones who committed the illegal act.
Everyone tells me that this is a bizarre, extremist, stupid idea, and would never work.
Unless the tools being described are weapons designed to kill people. In that case, having a right to make, buy, and sell these things even if they're going to be used for illegal purposes seems unquestionable, and it's extremist and stupid to state otherwise.
Of course you don't have a right to bear arms in Australia, right? But still I wonder if you'd get help from gun advocacy groups in Australia and told them about the plight of modchippers, and explained to them that modchippers and gun owners have common problems. I doubt it.
I find this very disappointing given that third party tying is well and truely illegal here in Australia, and mod chips allow consumers to regain the rights console makers have been trying to take away from them.
Essentially a mod chip allows a consumer to run whatever they like on the hardware they bought, not only what company X says they can.
The problem is that company X has total control over what can be run on the hardware without mod chips. This means they can sell a product and then say you can only run a select list of programs on the hardware from companies as dictated by them. This is third party tying, and this is illegal in Australia.
In short, mod chips return to Australian consumers the rights they're entitled to under Australian law. This rulling removes them again.
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Their press release covering this ruling is headlined Consumers Lose in Playstation Decision, which hardly sounds conciliatory.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/32088.html
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some content in this one this time too
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Very ironic that the big companys wish to deny us new open hardware and at the same time ramming DRM into legacy hardware. Ala media player 9 (Plan 9?) I would normally be a lot more concerned, however since Microsoft is set to embrace and extend this new field of DRM, I am not worried.
Go to Google and try to find a method for saving a Quicktime video stream. It can be done but you have to be persistant. Now try the same thing with Media Player... Google goes nuts showing you freeware up the wazzo to do just this very thing.
I am not worried.
You don't really NEED a modchip these days anyway. Solder a couple of points on the motherboard (MUCH easier than soldering in a modchip) and use the 007/Mechassault/Whatever hack to flash the TSOP. Worked for me, worked for my friends, worked for (probably) hundreds of other people.
Well it won't actually take much for the Australian Police to find them. Some people at a place I used to work ordered XBox mod chips from overseas, and before they were allowed to receive them through customs they had to give their name, residential address and I think drivers license number to ensure that they as recipients were properly identified.
At the time however it wasn't clear as to why this information was needed, other than the fact that they ordered mod chips of course. At the time they did this mod chips were considered legal.
I hope the ACCC in Australia does something for the Australian people, as we all know that the primary purpose of the "security" of consoles is to provide for the construction of artificial markets to decrease competition and raise prices for consumers and revenue for the companies that manufacture them.
The thing that that hacks me off, is that console makers bundle the region encoding along with their security. Region encoding has nothing to do with security and everything to do with creating false markets which is something that should not be tolerated. Its about high time that the manufactures of these devices were forced to abandon region encoding all together so that consumers have the choice of what to purchase and where. The same goes for DVDs.
I will of course freely admit that most peoples use of mod chips however is for piracy which is not an act that I condone or participate in. I would be more than happy to have a console with strong security and no region locking. Its high time that these companies realise thats whats good for consumers is good for them. Stuffing consumers around will only hurt these companies in the long run.
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The Australian game publishers are terrified of trying to keep up with the frantic schedule of one or two games per year seen in Linux gaming.
"Free Trade" - what a misnomer.
Australia already has 0-5% tariffs on nearly all imports - the real sticking points here are removing PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme), removing australian TV content restrictions, full privitisation of Telstra (the now half state owned telecommunications giant), removing distilled liquor duty, relaxing food labelling laws, relaxing quarantine restrictions, and basically anything else that a major American lobby group objects to...
So basically - we have to remove all of the things that Australians believe in and have spent many decades nurturing - for a marginal at best gain...
Let us hope negotiations progress...
Btw, I'm not anti-american, I would feel the same way if any other country tried to dictate australian domestic policy.
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It sets a precedent. Will it still not matter when you can't buy the tools to uncripple a DRM "enhanced" PC and run/write your own software on it?
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It's bad enough that companies are simultaneously claiming copyright protection under the law while trying to make their content uncopyable even for fair use; companies should have to choose between enjoying copyright protection or employing copy protection. Copyright law loses its meaning and purpose if the content being copyrighted never has a prayer of making it into the public domain.
But this ruling goes even further: in addition to copyright protection, the legal system is now also being burdened, at taxpayer expense, with prosecuting people who circumvent copy protection. If Microsoft or Sony can't figure out how to make their boxes unmoddable (it's not that hard technically), why should the taxpayer pick up the tab for their incompetence? And, no, it's not just Australia: of course, this nonsense is even more widespread in the US.
What really infuriates me is that a lot of the companies that create these false markets (which allow them to charge the highest price a particular area, rather than the global market, can reasonably sustain) are often the same ones that are right now shipping as many jobs as possible "overseas". So they can take advantage of cheaper markets, but we can't.
"MOD chips on the playstation were only good for circumvention. Sony itself released a linux pack for the PS/2, so running linux is definitely not an argument."
I'm not a big fan of current modding efforts because they're negative-ruling-bait. However, I must argue with this point. Sony's release of the Linux pack for the PS2 is certainly not the end of that argument. It is limited, you cannot distribute Linux apps to other PS2 owners unless they have the $200 kit as well. Worse, you have limited access to the hardware.
What's really hurting the MOD development for the PS2 is that there really isn't a whole lot of reason to do it. Play any region DVD? Well the law's not going to side with that. Play MAME? Nope, law's not going to side with that either. Play MP3s or DivX videos? That area's a bit gray, but there's the issue of how those Mp3s or DivX vids are acquired.
I agree with your first point, but the second one is probably what earned ya the troll rating. Pity the dude with the mod point didn't just respond, its not like you were out to be a jerk. There's a difference between trolling and having an unpopular opinion.
"Derp de derp."
If you ring up Microsoft's European Customer Support and ask for a replacement (even at a fee) for a damaged disk of a game they publish, you are told flately 'no' (in three different examples I know of).
Since then I haven't bought any of their games, and I'd also strongly argue the case for me to backup the ones I do.
The ruling doesn't make owning mod chips illegal, it makes selling them illegal.
Of course in this specific case they guy was selling copied games as well as mod chips. If he would have just sold mod chips and not sold the obviously illegal games things might have turned out different. The circumstances show his intent.
Of course with the Australian legal system he now gets to pay Sony's costs (and QCs don't come cheap). And of course then there's damages, but that comes later (and of course there's still room for appeal to the High Court - but losing there would further increase costs).
Oh well, I'll have to stick to PC games and skip on the PS2...