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JBoss to Apply for Official J2EE Certification

Posted by michael on from the burying-the-tool.hatchet dept.

Jonboy X writes "CNet has an article detailing the resolution of a long-standing feud between open-source J2EE server vendor JBoss and Sun. It seems they've decided to break down and shell out the clams to be certified by Sun. Quoth Bob Bickel, JBoss's vice president of corporate development and strategy: 'Our core base of developers, a lot of them say they don't give a damn...But the reality is that a lot of big companies who are using this are moving into production.' JBoss gives away its server software and survives on support contracts."

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  1. If you don't understand what this is worth.. by immanis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you don't understand what this is worth, you really haven't had to try and fight with people in the company who have the power to say "No, we will not use JBoss in production."

    People are pushing hard for JBoss. The answer, from the people who have the power to say no, has always been "It's not proven."

    Those people NEED things like official certifications to believe in products. They need it more than a list of who is using it where. And they will pay millions of dollars for a product that gives them these assurances..

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    1. Re:If you don't understand what this is worth.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's sad really - comes down to abdication of responsibility. The "IT Operations Management" people are completely unwilling to take on personal responsibility for their systems anymore, operating under the delusion that a commercial vendor means someone to sue, thus absolving them of any sin if the system breaks down. In practice, of course, you can;t sue the vendor. I've been a company that has tried. You'll find out two things. (a) EULAs do have legal teeth. (b) Your operations people will be found negligent and ruin your case if they even once say "the system just crashed, it must be the vendor's fault", if they haven't gone to absurd lengths with debuggers and profilers.

      All in all, you're better off with Open Source - there, your operations people HAVE NO LAME EXCUSES.

  2. Re:When are Java developers going to wake up? by NeoBeans · · Score: 3, Insightful
    IBM's participation in JavaONE probably reflects an attempt to curtail spending at trade shows that won't increase their bottom line.

    If you look at IBM's involvement in the Java Community Process for J2SE and J2EE you'll see there are over 20 IBM-led efforts under the umbrella of a process that is managed by Sun.

    Sun may not have product to capitalize on Java, but as a steward of the standard, the company is still in a uniquely powerful position.