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Xerox Exploits Printer Flaws To Make Pseudo-Holograms

Red Wolf writes "A chance discovery by Xerox lets printers superimpose glossy images on regular printouts, creating the possibility for document authentication along the lines of holograms on credit cards. The new technology, called Glossmark, can use ordinary office printers to superimpose a glossy image on an ordinary printed document in a way that can't be photocopied or otherwise easily reproduced."

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  1. Great security... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it's easily available on a commercially available printer, how does it provide great security?

    1. Re:Great security... by Alsee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The idea is that you can't print it unless you know what to tell the printer to print. An ordinary scanner will pick up the image, but it won't pick up the gloss pattern. Therefore you don't have the gloss pattern to send to the printer.

      The problem with their "security" is that I don't think it would be that hard to use a non-standard scanning technique to pick a decent scan of the gloss. It would just take some creative scanning, some image processing, and trial and error to get it right. If there's any motivation to do it then it can be done without too much difficulty.

      To detal one plan, scan it in the usualy way to get the base image. Then use a camera to get digital photos of it from a variety of angles that maximize the gloss. Map the original scan onto the new gloss images and subtract the base image out of the gloss. Hand tweak the glossmap. Viola! Print!

      The method I described would probably have poor resolution in the glossmap, but (1) the glossmap is probably a low resolution process anyway and (2) you can get a high rez glossmap if you just put in more work.

      I suggest that Xerox drop any "security" pretense for this feature and just include it as a cool extra ability. Glossmaps are a million times easier to copy than a hologram. They are useless for security.

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  2. Security? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    way that can't be photocopied or otherwise easily reproduced

    Uh, except for on another Xerox printer?

  3. Re:i'm rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What? That doesn't make any sense. Did you read the article?

  4. But it's true... by NeoBeans · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Any bug you can control is a feature! The big question in my mind would be... what would stop some enterprising individual from replicating this bug to forge the watermarks?

  5. Re:How is this secure..... by Rosyna · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You couldn't copy the original image. You'd have to have to separate source images (the bg and the layover) to counterfeit successfully. It's just another wall, really.

  6. Re:It can be reproduced. Just not copied. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can be produced by existing Xerox printing solutions.

    I don't really see how this works. If there's a document I want to fake I just whip out Quark and reproduce the Glossmark on my Xerox printer. Wha?


    "Can be produced" isn't the same as "can be reproduced." Sure, I guess you could print out your own copies -- if you had access to the original images. If I understand correctly, most of the point is that you can't just scan the image and retain the glossmark effect.
  7. basically looks like watermarking by mabhatter654 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I've noticed it too on photo paper. The way inkjets [i think that's what they're using] layer the ink can create a raised effect on certian printers ...though I mostly use HPs. The idea would be that someone couldn't just grab a document out of a file folder on your desk and color copy it--there's no change to the color..it's not really reproducable..it's too subtle. Heck, you could even put a serial number in a black box and number every copy you print! Then even with access to the hardware you couldn't just reprint something.

    It doesn't look really useful for preventing professional counterfieting, but for "casual" things [retail reciepts, HR files, inter-company corrospandance, etc.] It could come in handy for quick verification.

  8. Re:Color laserjets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On another note, how cool a job do these "Xerox Scientists" have?

    From the books I've read about Xerox, it sounds more frustrating than cool to work in their R&D. You invent all this neat shit, and the copierheads at Xerox dont "get" it, so Xerox doesn't market it.

    Your only hope is to go to work for the other company that will eventually pick up the technology and make a mint with it, or to leave and found your own company to make what you invented.

    And with all the "intellectual property" crap being thrown into employment contracts these days, the latter of those two options is probably right out the door. If Bob Metcalfe was working at Xerox these days, he damn sure wouldn't be allowed to leave and start 3Com to sell ethernet hardware that he whipped up on Xerox's dime.

  9. Re:Silly question... by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    its not really a hologram. Its a watermark-type thing. If it were a hologram - sure.

    Holograms have a bit more depth than 2 layers, however.

    was this a serious question? I can never tell these days if someone is just acting, or being...

  10. Re:details? how? by frdmfghtr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll take a stab at a guess how it works...and if this isn't how it works, I wonder if it would.

    -You print the document as normal.

    -On the repeat print, the "watermark" image color pattern matches the document you already printed. In essence, you double-up on the toner placed down in particular locations to make the Glossmark image. Viewed straight on, the extra-heavy toner pattern is indistinguishable from the rest of the printing as the color is the same, but the glossy surface is seen when viewed at an angle.

    It's just a guess, but it seems to make sense.

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  11. Finally... by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Finally I can replace this candle wax and stamp sealer from the 1500's!

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  12. That's what he *said*. by Otto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You might get the paper by bleaching one-dollar bills, but you damn sure ain't getting the press.

    Yes, but then if you re-read the post you're replying to, that's exactly what he said. It's not the artwork that's stopping him from making a good counterfeit, it's the lack of ability to obtain the machinery to do it.

    Making something "authentic" is relatively easy when the machinery is in every store. The Xerox machine can't make anything not easily counterfeited because everybody could get one cheaply and affordably, and then simply print out their own Glossmark crap.

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