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Fast Native Eclipse with GTK+ Looks

Mark Wielaard writes "The gcj team created a natively compiled build of the Eclipse IDE. The resulting binary starts up faster then with any traditional JVM since there is no virtual machine to initialize or slow byte code interpreter or just in time compiler involved. This means that gcj got a lot better since the last Slashdot story in December about gcj and Eclipse. Red Hat provides RPMs for easy installation. Footnotes has screenshots by Havoc Pennington of the Eclipse IDE with GTK+ widgets."

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  1. Grammar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    The resulting binary starts up faster then with any traditional JVM
    You mean "than". Use "than" for comparisons. Sorry, it's one of my grammar peeves.
  2. Re:Looks great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Looks like you need to play with Eclipse a little more... It doesnt even come near VStudio in terms of features, etc.

  3. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "then" represents a temporal relationship, "starts up faster" definitely qualifies as a time comparison.

    1. Re:Wrong by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hahahahahah... I suggest you go back to your "English as a second language" teacher and ask for a refund.

      The people respoding to you know better than you, so learn how to write correctly then come back and post.

  4. bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Real men use pico.

  5. Not a strong selling point for Java by Saint+Stephen · · Score: -1, Troll

    Swing and all other "modern kewl Java tools that run gobs of native code look sweet and fly!!!" are not exactly bolstering my image of Java as fast code.

    The latest ultra-rad GUI from BEA, this, well, the only time performance really sucks is when... they're actually executing Java code! But when they run in C++, well, then, they're totally awesome!

    Okay, this is kind of easy, piling on, pouring salt in the wound. People write server-side code in Java, and a network roundtrip to the database dwarfs time spent executing code in the middleware, so if Java promotes maintainable code in the middle, that's "A Good Thing". And the .NET team has admitted the current runtime only really scales to 2 processors (maybe 4), definitely not 8 (look for that to change). But whatever, actually DOING STUFF in Java is SLOW....

  6. Re:RKZ IS THE ASSMASTER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
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  7. Re:Startup sure, but how fast does it run? by evilpenguin · · Score: 0, Troll
    Of course, I don't see myself as a "Java programmer" or a "carpenter" or a "brick layer". I wouldn't take any pride in that. I have a degree in computer science. The day you will get a college degree, or at least some formal qualification, you won't need to go around saying: I am a "Java programmer".


    "Thank you, Dr. Science. Send your science questions to 'Ask Dr. Science.' Remember, he's not a real Doctor!"

    " I have a Master's Degree."

    "In SCIENCE!"

    With all due apologies to the Duck's Breath Mystery Theater.
  8. Re:Startup sure, but how fast does it run? by millenium · · Score: 0, Troll

    "But the trick is, you don't start a new JVM for each invocation"

    You've admitted by yourself that Java architectures are characterized by the concern to workaround its deficiencies. Workaround upon workaround you stubbornly ignore the facts and you even get upset when someone raises the issue openly.

    It's a bit like Sun Microsystems. They've been hearing for 5 years that they should do something about Swing; but they won't do anything about it. Worse, they would sue anybody who does.