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Sundance Online Film Fest Call For Entries

SOFF writes "The Sundance Film Festival is announcing its fourth annual Sundance Online Film Festival, which showcases the most innovative and creative storytellers using new digital technology. We invite all emerging and established digital artists, filmmakers, and storytellers to submit works in the following competitive categories: Animation, Short Subject, New Forms, and Gallery. Deadline: September 12, 2003."

76 comments

  1. Bah! by chadamir · · Score: 4, Funny

    the mountain town that is the internet is officially ruined. Damn you robert redford. DAMN YOU!

  2. Ascii Starwars by rf0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you think they would accept Ascii Star Wars?

    Rus

    1. Re:Ascii Starwars by gokulpod · · Score: 5, Interesting

      what about ascii matrix

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    2. Re:Ascii Starwars by davejenkins · · Score: 3, Interesting

      i doubt it. there are no gender issues, minority ascending, or strongly environmental issues in it.

      Flame me if you will, but honestly-- we did a Palm App for Sundance a while back, and there is a definite slant to things there...

    3. Re:Ascii Starwars by DrMrLordX · · Score: 0

      All movies bow to Lesko's Revenge. It is the greatest!

    4. Re:Ascii Starwars by Solokron · · Score: 2, Informative

      For more great ascii movies including the Matrix check out...http://www.romanm.ch/ascii-movies.htm

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    5. Re:Ascii Starwars by FauxReal · · Score: 1

      How about Deep Ascii. It's the porn movie "Deep Throat" converted via computer into ascii. Its kind of neat to watch, even though the screen is completely filled with characters the detail can be pretty good at times.

    6. Re:Ascii Starwars by Liquorman · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it have been more appropriately converted to EBCDIC?

    7. Re:Ascii Starwars by ianscot · · Score: 1
      ...honestly-- we did a Palm App for Sundance a while back, and there is a definite slant to things there...

      Remind me again -- where are the movies that aren't "slanted"? 'Cause I'm watching my share of mainstream movies, and they're full of cool fighter pilots named "Rafe" and a lot of crappy romantic dialog. Pretty dull and stereotypical, you know? Sundance is just a different POV from the commercial one, but it's not more of a POV, not really.

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    8. Re:Ascii Starwars by sabinm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. You're paid to think critcally, right? Did you ever think the reason why there is so many INDEPENDENT films about minorities, gender issues and enviros because the non independent film industry does not release films with those kind of issues???

      I mean give me a break. That is the most callous and non-thinking reply i've heard in a long time. Talk about a flawed sense of history.

      There was this girl once whom I was crazy about that asked me a similarly stupid question . . . she asked me why blacks had to have an INDEPENDENT black television station like BET (quality issues aside) and always try to make *ourselves* different (as if I had anything to do with the founding of BET or other blacks)!

      I told her that the reason that BET existed is that MTV at the time refused to put on black music artists as actually seeing blacks on tv was considered unmarketable (this was the eighties)!

      You really need to get out from in front of that dead interface and go outside and see real life, buddy. Inject some new code into that aging architecture. True independence exists because the proper channels are closed to legitimate pursuers.

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    9. Re:Ascii Starwars by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Ever think about the fact that indie films are way, way out of touch with anyone but themselves? Maybe that's why they don't address relevant issues and instead spend their time advocating hard-left issues instead of storytelling. It's an insular business, and anyone with different ideas will not be welcome at Sundance.

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    10. Re:Ascii Starwars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was this girl once whom I was crazy about that asked me a similarly stupid question . . . she asked me why blacks had to have an INDEPENDENT black television station like BET (quality issues aside) and always try to make *ourselves* different (as if I had anything to do with the founding of BET or other blacks)!

      I told her that the reason that BET existed is that MTV at the time refused to put on black music artists as actually seeing blacks on tv was considered unmarketable (this was the eighties)!


      Did she ask you this question in the 80's, when there was a reason for BET, or more recently, when it's just another channel?

    11. Re:Ascii Starwars by bismarck2 · · Score: 1

      BET exists because there is a large market for black themed entertainment. It doesn't *need* to be there it just sells well and survives in this marketplace.

      Indie movies frequently feature such issues as gender roles since lots of people find them interesting and worth exploring. Many (including the poster you replied to and myself) consider this a very tired topic; it is nauseatingly cliche to see yet another indie movie about being gay.

      Like there is this whole crappy ass movie and at the end someone is gay and that is supposed to shock me and make the past two hours entertaining.

    12. Re:Ascii Starwars by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

      You're paid to think critcally, right? Did you ever think the reason why there is so many INDEPENDENT films about minorities, gender issues and enviros because the non independent film industry does not release films with those kind of issues???

      Did you ever think the reason why the non independent film industry does not release films with those kind of issues is because the vast majority of people find them boring???

    13. Re:Ascii Starwars by davejenkins · · Score: 1

      You really need to get out from in front of that dead interface and go outside and see real life, buddy. Inject some new code into that aging architecture. True independence exists because the proper channels are closed to legitimate pursuers.

      1. I am not your 'buddy'. Paully Shore is probably a better candidate for that.

      2. I experience plenty of outside life. I've lived in 5 different countries in the last two years, and well... let's not get in a pissing contest there.

      3. You've missed my point: Sundance Film Festival was originally created by Mr Redford as a venue for independent film for young talent that couldn't get a shot in Hollywood. To a large degree if fills that mission. However, there is also a PC cluture among the selection crew that favors certain themes. To wit: a film that promoted gun ownership or white people or whatever non-PC topic you can think wouldn't stand a chance at Sundance, even if the film was genius in structure, and "shut out" from Hollywood (ala the original mission of Sundance).

      Have you been to Sundance? How many times?

    14. Re:Ascii Starwars by sabinm · · Score: 1

      1. I am quite relieved that you are no association of mine.

      2. Being to different countries does not a cultured person make. There are McDonalds in every country that has electricity for a cash register

      3. Friend, I live in Utah. I hike through Sundance. Unfortunately, people use PC as an excuse not to be courteous. People who are rude and obnoxious sometimes use PC as a straw man saying "I'm not PC" and saying that they are not frank, when in reality they are boorish and of low character. Bigotry and intolerance are not frankness, PC or not.

      4. Sundance does not exist to forward any agenda except Robert Redfords. The reason that there is no "Gun ownership of white people movies" is because they don't try hard enough. Maybe it's because they don't make good movies. They have just as much chance as anyone else does to make a good movie. Besides the point, white people with guns are all over hollywood, and so really don't have a lack of funding. OR lack of shots in Hollywood.

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    15. Re:Ascii Starwars by sabinm · · Score: 1

      There is always noise that is undesireable in a place that advocates free speech and independence--noise that you or I may not find desirable. To say that because the noise exists and is given an oportunity to be heard is "hard-left" is a false positive. PLEASE use your thinking skills. I've seen some lousy movies come from both independent and Hollywood films. They have nothing to do with being politically sided or not. Not all films are political. Some are just nauseating self gratifying or self depcrecating hogwash. Some are wonderful thoughtful films. There are films from both sides of the spectrum, but many only choose to point out those with which they disagree.

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    16. Re:Ascii Starwars by sabinm · · Score: 1

      LOL you might be the most on the mark out here. Although independent films might not be your cup of tea (and they are not always mine), you should really see one called the Spanish Prisoner. It is really well crafted. I think it was directed by Steve Martin (you know, the Jerk, My Blue Heaven), although this one is not a comedy.

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    17. Re:Ascii Starwars by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      My point is, they're not at all advocating free speech nor independence. Anyone who comes out with a hard-left film will be cheered, and anyone who has the audacity to challenge this mode of thought will be ostracized and probably banned.

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    18. Re:Ascii Starwars by davejenkins · · Score: 1

      Sundance does not exist to forward any agenda except Robert Redfords. The reason that there is no "Gun ownership of white people movies" is because they don't try hard enough. Maybe it's because they don't make good movies.

      How do you reconcile those two sentences? a) If Sundance (I used to live there too) exists for Robert Redford's agenda, then you've just echoed my original point. So, I return to my original post.

      b) How do we know if they make good movies or not? With the Redford agenda in place, we can never know.

      Look, I am not trying to be racist, personally attacking you, or be 'boorish' or 'low character'. There is no way to compare who, between us, is more cultured. We could compare resumes, book lists, language abilities, movie trivia-- it's all subjective. The very fact that you use terms such as 'boorish' and 'low character' show that you are aware of this (and think of yourself of some higher grade, as do all people except maybe Tom Arnold).

      I am simply pointing out an existing bias at Sundance. There is nothing wrong with bias-- all subjective competitions have a bias (or collection of biases) at their center. As such, Star Wars ASCII doesn't fit the set of biases that exist at Sundance. I would think that you could agree to that.

  3. bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, it's nice to know about this with only 37 days left until the entry deadline. I'm sure that amateur/budding film makers can find the few hundred thousands of dollars in backing they need from investors, gather actors, scripts, props, film crews, arrange permission and licenses to film in necessary areas, chop, process and edit the films, package them up and submit them in just 37 days. No problem!

    1. Re:bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sounds like perfect timing. For next year's festival.

    2. Re:bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ever see the film Pi? after 18 months of pre-production, filming took 30 days.

      so... if we can just get a time machine & travel back 18 months. then get some sort of idea machine & a decent storyline, we're sorted!

    3. Re:bad timing by gfody · · Score: 1

      yea I've seen pi.. what a crappy movie. I hope the next time somebody makes a "math" movie it has some freg'n chaos theory in it.

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    4. Re:bad timing by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2, Funny
      I hope the next time somebody makes a "math" movie it has some freg'n chaos theory in it.
      Yeah, like the "chaos theory" in the film Jurassic Park. We need more of that. NOT!
    5. Re:bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's the online film festival, not the traditional film festival. A lot of great Flash animations came out of last year's festival. And in regards to your comment, you don't decide to go make a film when someone like Sundance, whom everyone knows has a festival every year, announces the deadline for this year's entries. People have a film they did this year, they find out about the festival, they submit it. :P

    6. Re:bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They have, in a way... an Australian movie called "The Bank" contains chaos theory. And its actually quite a good movie, all things considered.

    7. Re:bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, it's nice to know about this with only 37 days left until the entry deadline. I'm sure that amateur/budding film makers can find the few hundred thousands of dollars in backing they need from investors, gather actors, scripts, props, film crews, arrange permission and licenses to film in necessary areas, chop, process and edit the films, package them up and submit them in just 37 days. No problem!

      Hahahaha! I was thinking exactly the same thing. Woo hoo! I have a month and 7 days. Thanks for letting me know about it, Slashdot! (Yeah right. Next year maybe.)

    8. Re:bad timing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      And the movie came out looking like it.

      What a crappy movie. NO math, NO science, NO computers, just a bunch of crap from people who can't tell a CPU from a power supply fan. Just a bunch of Jewish mysticism (WTF?). Pi was the last time I made the mistake of actually paying money to see an art film, and I got burned pretty badly. It was obvious they were intentionally playing to a tiny audience, and that I was not at all welcome to participate.

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    9. Re:bad timing by filmsmith · · Score: 1

      a decent storyline

      Your mention got me to thinking of the perfect storyline! It's about a Robot Driving Instructor who travels back in time, for some reason! His best friend is a talking pie!

    10. Re:bad timing by Fastball · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't give up on "artsy" movies so easily, including Pi director Darren Aronofsky's Requiem for a Dream. I thought this was the better of the two drug related movies of 2000 including Traffic. I felt closer to Aronofsky's characters in Requiem. What Traffic was to macroeconomics, Requiem was on a microeconomic level.

    11. Re:bad timing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Huh?

      Can you tell a CPU from a power supply fan?

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  4. Oh no! by cliffy2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No machinima category! Or does that count as animation? Seriously, they're bound to bore /. readers without a machinima category. (Or some sort of IP-related lawsuit to rant about.) But seriously, will the technology ever progress enough to be seriously considered? And MORE seriously, will SOMEONE please come up with a better name than machinima? Gah!

    1. Re:Oh no! by BobTheLawyer · · Score: 1

      golly, pleasing /. readers must be the Sundance organisers' top priority. How could they have missed this one?

    2. Re:Oh no! by CB-in-Tokyo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't even know what machenima means.

      But then again I get confused whenever I see IANAL.

      There is a secret /. goatse consipiracy going on isn't there?

    3. Re:Oh no! by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1
      Simple:

      IANAL I am a totally anal person; I have severe neuroses.

      Machinima A Chinese expression meaning, roughly, What?! A machine?! You must be joking!

  5. Cool by hughesey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a bit of a browse last year, and there were some pretty cool flicks. Hopefully this year it is as good. Good for filling in time.

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  6. A good chance for pro linux tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is where OSS and Linux tools for video production can REALLY shine. It's free people, completely free. For absolutely no cost y'all have equivalent tools the big boys use for movie production and there's no reason we can't bring out some fantastic productions.

    Perhaps it's too late now for entries this year unless you've already been working on them (congrats to those who have) but for next year I'll be sure to be in!

    1. Re:A good chance for pro linux tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's free people, completely free.

      You've never actually tried to produce a movie right?

  7. Camp Chaos Cartoons.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    napster bad I'm proposing that the camp chaos cartoons sending up Metallica be entered (although they're cartoons).

  8. Cross ref with Halo Academy Awards... by spamchang · · Score: 1

    Warthog Jump! and RedvBlue! oh, wrong thread. =P

  9. Obvious karma-whoring by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Obviously, somebody has to point out the Academy Awards Of Halo Videos to them. It may not have the best technical effects, but RvB has a reasonably consistent story line, and it's gotten a good number of long belly-laughs out of me.

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  10. sigh..... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sundance Film Festival will not accept entries that are currently available to the public through a website or any other showcase platforms.

    So you have to produce it specifically for the 'net, but you're not allowed to post it on your own website (at least not until after the film festival).

    It kinda makes sense, but mostly it just makes me cringe.

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    1. Re:sigh..... by mstra · · Score: 1
      That's pretty common for Sundance. Films entered in their offline festival have to premeire at Sundance as well.

      It's a shame. That means that anything submitted to Triggerstreet is ineligible.

      Quite frankly, I can't imagine how many films that truly qualify that they will receive.

      m.

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    2. Re:sigh..... by filmsmith · · Score: 1

      That bummed me out, too. Fortunately, since I'm still in post, I'll be able to enter in Sundance THEN move to Triggerstreet if I feel so inclined. The big problem now is just whittling down that beast to the appropriate time limit.

  11. Okay, give. What are they? by MickLinux · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'm up for interest. But I don't know what tools I should be using. I can do the sound mixing and the sound recording okay, I guess. I'd use Audacity and sound-record.

    But what should I be using for the animation itself?

    And how do I mix it with the sound, then?

    What OSS programs are good here?

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  12. Homestarrunner Sundance Special? by PoisonousPhat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sorry, it had to be mentioned eventually. Not that it would actually happen, but it would be amusing to find that a homegrown, word-of-mouth supported creation were to beat out a more highly-funded studio's work.

    Comedy is an art form.

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  13. why don't one of you by blah1019 · · Score: 0

    gin up a quick film, post it somewhere we can get to it and run up the hits on the website. Show Sundance how popular it is and BAM! enter that puppy at the festival. That would be cool.

  14. Star Wars Kid! by Ransak · · Score: 1

    Wonder if the Star Wars Kid is eligible for this?

    ... and here's where I insert my gratuitous plug for my own SWK video on that site. It's good for a laugh.
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  15. Time to update that old joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know the old Hollywood joke about the blond who was so dumb she fucked the writer? In the new version, the blond is so dumb she fucks the modeler or programmer! Do you think the new version stretches the credibility of the joke teller too much?

  16. Man Getting Hit in Groin By Football by shoppa · · Score: 4, Funny
    My nomination is Man Getting Hit in Groin By Football, starring Hans Moleman.

    It works on so many levels!, according to reviewer Homer Simpson.

  17. Last festivals entries? by Andre+Breton · · Score: 1

    Anyone has an idea where to take a look at older entries from the last Sundance Online Film Festivals? Nothing on their website(s).

  18. Byron Film Festival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is a festival where you get a little more for your work: www.filmfestival.com.au

  19. Digital film by colmore · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In my humble opinion digital "film" looks like crap. If you want to go cheap use 8mm. Digital film looks like video, oddly flat and the motion seems to be happening at a slightly wrong pace. It isn't an issue of resolution. It's probably an issue of color depth, and I don't really know anything about shutter speeds and aperatures or whatever else might be having an effect. All I know is that watching movies shot on digital is a distinctly uncomfortable experience.

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    1. Re:Digital film by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

      Yup, color depth is a problem. Some of the blacks aren't black enough so you lose some contrast and things could appear washed out. That's one of the problems with some of the jpeg compression. Apparently movie studios use a different, high-end format that allocates more information to the shadows.

    2. Re:Digital film by k31bang · · Score: 1

      shoot on super 8. Transfer to DV. edit on computer. Burn to dvd. winner.

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  20. Who cares if its online... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Its still just gonna be gay cowboys eating pudding.

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  21. This sux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an independent filmmaker myself, I don't even have the $25 fee!

    My films are made like this:

    ) borrow camera from friend, forget to give back
    ) steal videotapes from kmart
    ) convince friends they are acting for a "school project" to avoid paying them.
    ) profit!

    Hey, it's worked for me before.

  22. Idea for Short Subject by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 0

    My nomination for Best Short Subject is Kevin Costner's career.

    His quote from the trailer of his new movie (apparently one of the better lines): "Some men are going to be killed here today" (cut to gun shooting) "and I'm gonna be the one killin' them."

    Highlights from the biography:

    "After making one soft core sex film, he vowed to not work again if that was the only work he could do. He didn't work for nearly six years..."

    "His frontal nude scene in For Love of the Game (1999) was reportedly deleted after being met with laughter at test screenings."

    "Sioux nation gave Costner a tract of land after making Dances with Wolves (1990). Costner built a golf course on that land."

    And of course there was Waterworld, The Postman, 3000 Miles to Graceland and, of course, Waterworld.

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  23. Just got a Sony PD-150 by Fastball · · Score: 1
    I agree with you in a lot of cases. The quality of the video can take you away from the subject in the movie. But this isn't always the case. Check out Personal Velocity (WARNING: chick flick but interesting still). This was shot with a couple Sony PD-150's, and the color is excellent. Though noticibly different from typical 35mm films, picture quality was not a distraction. No, it's not 35mm, and just about anything short of HD is going to come up short, but Personal Velocity shows you what can be done with a DV camcorder and some post-processing. Read more about the DP's and director's work on it. I think with some effort you can get a quality on par with 16mm film. Good lighting goes a long way (though the PD-150 kicks @ss in low light).

    I recently bought a PD-150, and the color depth is remarkable. I'm hoping to get some documentary work in addition to filming some screenplays I've written (small cast and no budget stuff). The least of my concerns is the DV quality.

  24. Re:Okay, give. What are they? by Fastball · · Score: 1
    There's several tools related to digital/online filmmaking that are evolving nicely. First, sound tools:

    Ardour is a multichannel hard disk recorder (HDR) and digital audio workstation (DAW).

    Audacity is a free audio editor. You can record sounds, play sounds, import and export WAV, AIFF, and MP3 files, and more.

    JACK Rack is an effects "rack" for the JACK low latency audio API. The rack can be filled with LADSPA effects plugins and can be controlled using the ALSA sequencer. It's phat; it turns your computer into an effects box.

    Second, video capture and editing:

    Kino is a non-linear DV editor for GNU/Linux. It features excellent integration with IEEE 1394 for capture, VTR control, and recording back to the camera. It captures video to disk in AVI format in both type-1 DV and type-2 DV (separate audio stream) encodings.

    Cinerella combines most of the basic functions needed to produce motion pictures with a capable compositing system. Advanced editing, YUV compositing, and realtime effects are some of the things Cinelerra does. Cinelerra's 16 bit YUV compositing engine has been optimized for multiple CPU's, reduces generation loss, and significantly reduces compression time. Capturing from IEEE1394, Video4Linux, Motion JPEG, and screenshots is supported.

    Third, animation:

    Blender is an open source software for 3D modeling, animation, rendering, post-production, interactive creation and playback.

    Fourth, post-processing:

    CinePaint(formerly Film Gimp) CinePaint is a free open source painting and image retouching program designed to work best with 35mm film and other high resolution high dynamic range images.

    I have used Kino, Cinerella, and Blender (a little) and was impressed with each of them. The audio tools look promising and CinePaint has some Hollywood titles to its credit. Maybe I'm a fool, but it seems that the "digital revolution" is giving open source, non-proprietary software tools a chance. Moviemaking is requiring more and more geeks. Being free got OSS in the door. Now, they're getting some much deserved polish.
  25. AMD Animation and Short Film Contest by AMDpro · · Score: 1

    AMD's sponsoring a contest to promote animation and digital short film development for 64-bit. Two grand prize winners get an Athlon64 system, $6,400 and global visibility at AMD's launch events for Athlon64. More info at http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_9392,00.html?redi r=ANUS01