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Scientists Clone Horse

The Night Watchman writes "Italian scientists have produced the world's first horse clone, according to Yahoo News. Racing is likely to become slightly more interesting in the coming years..."

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  1. Racing likely to become more interesting? by James+A.+A.+Joyce · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think that cloning will make much difference to current methods of selective breeding; after all, selective breeding works just fine as it is, and I don't think that horses can really be "improved" any further without some large anomalistic genetic change in a large proportion of the species.

  2. SeaBiscuit 2 by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    ccBiscuit (carbon copy)

    Either that or a glitch in the Matrix...they've changed something...oh yeah, the new Apple license!

  3. Or less interesting... by nortcele · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gate1: Sea Biscuit Odds 1/1
    Gate2: Sea Biscuit Odds 1/1
    Gate3: Sea Biscuit Odds 1/1
    Gate4: Sea Biscuit Odds 1/1
    etc...

  4. Re:Would you call it... by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, it's "My Little Clony"

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  5. Jeez... by IpsissimusMarr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Out of a total of 841 reconstructed embryos, only 22 developed to advanced embryos within about a week. Seventeen of those were introduced into nine mares, resulting in four pregnancies, but only one, Prometea, developed to full term.

    Jeez... if you really want that genetically enhanced captain of the football team genius scientist Richard Gere looking son you better start soon!

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  6. The steed of choice for the by lightspawn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clone Ranger.

  7. No, no, I've got it.. by L.+VeGas · · Score: 2, Funny

    They did it to make a...

    Battalion of Italian Stallions

    har har har *hiccup*

  8. a clone of a horse is a horse, of course,of course by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    And no one can talk to a clone of a horse of course
    That is, of course, unless the clone of the horse is a clone of the famous Mister Ed!

    "She's the clone!"
    "No, _she's_ the clone!"

  9. Horse Racing doesn't allow AI by dfinster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thoroughbred's don't even allow artificial insemination (AI) much less embryo transplant, they are strictly live-cover only.

    In other breeds/diciplines it's fine. I'm not a breeding expert, but my wife and I own a stallion and we've shipped semen a few times to mare owners. A friend of ours runs a large operation this ships frozen and cooled equine semen. It's pretty interesting, actually. The technology is pretty advanced, and the recordkeeping / auditing requirements when dealing with million-dollar horses is staggering.

  10. From the article by secolactico · · Score: 3, Informative

    "The most obvious use is to give a sterile animal or animals that die or can't breed because of some disease a chance to reproduce," Galli said.


    Thus doing away with that pesky natural selection. Not that that's a bad thing... ;-)

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  11. Yes, but.. by poity · · Score: 4, Funny

    have they isolated the genes that will make me hung like one?

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  12. You all have no idea.... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Funny

    You all have no idea how important this is!

    Don't you see - now, after we have beaten any given dead horse (e.g. Microsoft is evil, X is slow, ??AA sucks) into a slurry, we can salvage its DNA, clone it, raise the clone to maturity, kill it, and continue to beat it some more!

    This invention has singlehandedly saved the Internet!

  13. Neigh! by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sadly, Wired magazine had a sharp drop in sales in the month of July when customers confused the cover featuring the cloned horse for Janet Reno.

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  14. From a working horse owner's perspective by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can't claim to have real "working" horses -- we're not on the King Ranch riding a hundred miles of fence on horseback. We've got a couple of horses (with more on the way) that we've selected for their smarts and endurance. They're Appaloosas, but the pretty patterns are strictly a nice feature, not a design requirement.

    So this statement really irritates me:
    [Texas A&M research veterinarian Katrin] Hinrichs is awaiting the birth of a cloned American quarter horse -- a copy of Hinrichs' 9-year-old daughter's show horse -- in mid-November. She believes cloning's most obvious use in the horse industry would be cloning such show horses.
    Unfortunately, this researcher is probably right on the money, literally. There is huge money in show horses, just like there is in purebred show dogs. The problem is how selective breeding -- in both cases -- has resulted in an animal that is useless for any real purpose.

    Appaloosas get bred for particular patterns of spots, Quarter Horses get bred for very specific ratios of body parts, Arabians are bred to hold themselves "just so"... you get the picture. Thoroughbreds, bred for speed, may be the only horses that are commercially bred for something that is even remotely "natural" to a horse's instincts -- and even they are broken down and "retired" at an age when a working horse is just getting started.

    What you see, way too often, is a horse that looks pretty, but is completely screwed up in the head. And that's with traditional breeding (and I'm including the straw o'semen in the "traditional" category). I can only imagine the neurotic, unpredictable horses that will come from cloning the "best" show horses. They'll be useless for any actual work, probably won't be able to reproduce without assistance (already a problem today), and will be a danger to their rider and anyone nearby.

    Give me a field-bred "grade" horse over a "show" horse any day. It's like our dogs -- we have two mixed-breed puppies (half Jack Russell) that are sharp as a tack. The big black dog that got dumped as a puppy is the loyal protector of the household. And the $700 Schnauzer is the stupidest creature on the face of God's green earth. Show dog? No thanks, I'll take the mutt in the corner.
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    1. Re:From a working horse owner's perspective by Zarquon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, while that seems to be excluding many of the draft breeds, arguably they are being enhanced for function. Horses have 4 mainstream uses at the moment:
      1) Racing.
      2) Showing/Jumping/et al.
      3) Herding/farm work.
      4) Pleasure riding.

      I'm on the eastern seaboard, so I almost swapped #3 and #4.

      As for horses not right in the head, the worst ones I've encountered have _always_ been thoroughbreds off the track. Not that the others are all brilliant, but the thoroughbreds were almost exclusively ditzey.

      The one thing that don't mention about this process, is while it may conserve genetic material, there is also a lot of environmental impact in a horse's development. A clone of a horse will look the same, but probably won't behave or perform the same way.

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