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Top 10 Inventions in Money Technology During the 1900's

scuggums writes "The DaVinci Institute has put together an interesting historic piece to help put the world of money technology into perspective. While I'm glad to see the ATM machine made the list, I had no idea it was invented back in 1939. Other items on the list are barcodes, spreadsheets, and RSA encryption. This looks to be one of the research pieces the Institute's doing for their upcoming Future of Money Summit in October."

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  1. A little tidbit... by Valar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The first international banking system was establish ed by the Knights Templar during the crusades. It used something like a check, so that pilgrims didn't have to carry physical wealth with them along the way. The involvement of the templar in money handling is part of what made them so wealthy, which was part of what made them so feared, which was King Philip eventually rounded up and arrested the leaders of the order. I just think it's kind of interesting that banking has its roots in a militant order...

    1. Re:A little tidbit... by 56ker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think that the invention of paper money by the Chinese was more important though. Once you get past small amounts - metal currency just isn't practical. I suppose it's a similar idea behind the banks.

  2. Smart card? by Gherald · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article: Other technologies developed in the 1990s didn't make the list because most have not reached the level of impact that the following items have.

    So they ignore all the cool 1990's technology that has already had widespread influence and put the Smart Card on the list, which has never amounted to anything...

    1. Re:Smart card? by Gherald · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So they are being used, only not in your backward assed Texan run country

      Here we use credit cards. Its more secure to have financial information stored server-side.

      Smart cards can be hacked. I should know, I used refill my public telephone calling card back when I lived in Argentina.

    2. Re:Smart card? by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Informative
      "Here we use credit cards. Its more secure to have financial information stored server-side."

      I guess you don't have a checking account. Here in the US it takes one to five days to get checks reconciled. So even if you don't ever use your checkbook. The very fact that you have a checking account puts you at risk from having your account cleaned out.

      In some ways, smart cards are just like checks, they don't get reconciled immediately, but they can get reconciled within a few seconds if necessary.

  3. I volunteer by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    to test all new new inventions coming out of the mint. I can handle large test batches too.

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  4. Historic inventions are nice by The+Old+Burke · · Score: 4, Interesting
    .. but the future is even more interesting.
    Just Imagine all the new possibilities for new cominations you can arrange if you combine the latest in technology with the old paper bill.

    I'm really looking forward to the bill that makes its possible to track where the bill was, who used it and what was bought. For example, retailers could produce special targeted advertising for peole that came with money they had won in a lottery. If the retailer knows where the customer has grabbed the money its much easier to sell thing based on customer history and public profiles.

    A on the security side the government can destroy money that belongs to suspected criminals and therby prevent crime before it takes place. If you don't have cash its difficault to opperate for example a drug ring.

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    1. Re:Historic inventions are nice by moitz · · Score: 4, Insightful
      the government can destroy money that belongs to suspected criminals and therby prevent crime before it takes place.

      Yeah, screw that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Where'd that Constitution thingy go anyhow?

      -moitz-

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    2. Re:Historic inventions are nice by freeweed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure this was intended to be moderated Funny, and if not, I'm really scared.

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  5. Fiat Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the top 10 'innovations' would have to be the removal of gold backing the Dollar, allowing for huge national deficits. A nice timeline is here.

  6. Never Trust The Client by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Frankly, smart cards shouldn't be on that list, as the intended use(storing money on the card) has not been perfected against people hacking the card for more money. Smart cards trust the "client", and as any MMORPG developer can tell you, that's a bad thing. Paper money and credit cards at least have some protection, smart cards on the other hand are a relitively easy fraud source for anyone with a card writer, and the resources to use it; unlike any other method, you end up with a perfect "digital copy" of the money.

  7. All this miraculous technology... by cvk · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and what does it all lead to? Inventive new ways to pay for porn sites....

  8. Ah, ATM by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    5.) The Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) - 1939

    I think this is an invention that is both terrific and dangerous. I personally have decided to not get an ATM card, reasoning that if my money is harder to get to, it's harder to spend.

    1. Re:Ah, ATM by gfody · · Score: 5, Funny

      you should put your fridge upstairs too

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  9. Plastic money by questamor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another one worth mentioning, Plastic money as used in several countries now, starting as a collaboration between a couple of countries using technology developed in Australia. It's a late 80s thing and only fairly recent, but something upwards of 30 nations use last I looked.

    1. Re:Plastic money by Snoopy77 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Modded funny?

      The only thing funny is that the USians don't know what we mean. While you guys have pulling out soggy wads of green from your washing machines here in Australia we've been successfully laundering our plastic notes since the 80's.

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  10. Anti-Conterfeiting Technology by rhysweatherley · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The article is good, but focuses mainly on technologies for automating the transfer of money (wire transfer, credit cards, ATM's, etc).

    There have also been significant leaps in the technology that is plain old paper currency. e.g. watermarking, plastic bank notes (Australia), holograms, etc.

    Would have been nice if they had explored this aspect also. Give me good old-fashioned currency any day.

  11. Re:ABOLISH MONEY!!! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yes, I'm a small-c communist.

    and you sure are a big-M Moron. How can anybody in 2003 want to abolish money?

    Money isn't evil, it's just a portable simulation of real trade, just like you send files over the internet instead of having to go see the other guy and give him a diskette. The fact that certain goods or services can be overrated or underrated doesn't change the fact that money was one of the single greatest invention of the human race.

    You go trade sacks of grains in the sovkhoz with your fellow idealist friends, while everybody else will takes care of advancing civilization thank you very much.

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  12. I don't see ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... creative accounting on the list. Of course I imagine that predates the 1900s.

  13. Re:Excuse me, but by rynthetyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    what exactly does a "smart card" have to do with money technology?

    You must be an American--in much of Europe, all of the credit cards are smart cards. When I was in Spain about 3 years ago, I couldn't use my credit card to make pay phone calls because the phones were all equipped with smart card readers and couldn't read my American credit card with only a mag strip.

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  14. the memory bank by lopati · · Score: 5, Interesting
    keith hart i think should have been one of the speakers, here's an excerpt from "the memory bank":
    The idea of money as a source of social memory was also crucial for John Locke, who figures prominently in our story as the philosopher who inaugurated the modern age of democratic revolutions. Locke was obsessed with money's role both in establishing a progressive social order and in subverting it as its criminal antithesis. Indeed, he believed that money launched humanity from the state of nature onto the road to civil government. As long as men's possessions were limited to perishable products, the scope for property was restricted. Money, by offering a durable store of value convertible against all useful things, unleashed the potential for property accumulation and for the intergenerational transmission of inequality. For Locke, then, money was indispensable to that development of cultural memory on which civilization depends.
    also btw, bernard lietaer should've been a speaker as well! (altho he is on the board :)
  15. Getting money from a wall by wass · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Totally off-topic, but your Sumerian reference is interesting, because at my former college (U. Penn) there was a scam going on there about 10 years ago based on similar phrasing.

    Some guy would pretend to be a newly-arrived African immigrant, asking his victim how to "get money from a wall." At that point, his accomplice would show up, pretending to be a stranger, also asking the student to help the poor guy out. The student, taking pity, would go to the ATM, enter their PIN, withdraw X dollars to show them how it's done.

    Then, supposedly, the guy 'shows' the student how to keep his wallet safe from thieves, by hiding it in a white bag in his pants, and demonstrates with the students wallet. At which point he gives the student the white bag back, and leaves. Moments later, when the student realizes the white bag he was given doesn't have his wallet, the two guys are nowhere to be found. And usually there was a very recent subsequent cash withdrawl with the student's ATM card.

    It was printed in my school paper that about half a dozen people got scammed this way. It was ridiculous, and even more so when I saw the movie "The Sting", where this scam was used exactly.

    This brings up some common sense. Firstly and most importantly, does anybody enter their PIN clearly and slowly on the keypad? Especially if there are strangers present? I always block the keypad, and use all 3 fingers to do it so it's entered quickly and discretely. I also can't believe the students gave their wallets to the guy to hold for only a few seconds, and didn't check when he 'gave' it back.

    But anyway, it all goes back to your Sumerian "Magic Wall". The phrasing that the thief used to imply his technological innocence and lack of understanding with modern Western society, hence creating a sense of pity in the victim.

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  16. Strangely missing... by ccnull · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No anti-counterfeiting technology? (Security strips in money, inks that change color when you change the angle, microprinting)

    Surely there has been SOMETHING of interest to come from the financial/tech world to be invented in the last 20 years.

  17. Ancient Greek Banking by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The first international banking system was establish ed by the Knights Templar during the crusades. ... I just think it's kind of interesting that banking has its roots in a militant order.

    International banking goes back to Ancient Greece. The various city-states amounted, in their day, to the equivalent of today's nation-states. They carried on bank-supported trade with each other, and with more distant states such as Egypt.

    Your point about banking having its roots in a militant order is well made. Indeed, governments have always reserved for themselves two things: armies and currency.

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  18. Wish we could get rid of the FED by argoff · · Score: 4, Insightful


    The title says it all. The EURO too while were at it. IMHO, government has no business being in the money business other than punishing people who act fradulently, and holding dishonest people accountable. I'm not saying we should have a gold standard, but something whose value can't be manipulated by government policy. (Yeah, I know the FED technically isn't part of the US govt - but give me a break)

  19. Ignored! by MOtisBeard · · Score: 3, Funny

    Huh. They completely ignored the giant stone coinage of the Yap Islanders. What could be more innovative? The money is too large and heavy to move, so instead of carrying it around and exchanging it, the people of Yap simply point to their money when they want to purchase something, saying "That one's mine. Now it's yours." No inflation, ever, 'cause the total supply of money is completely static. No loose change lost in the sofa. No underworld money laundering. No expensive infrastructure to maintain. One drawback, of course: the first Yap to figure out how to purchase a bulldozer from the mainland using giant stone coins will end up lord and master of the whole society.

  20. gangs by qqtortqq · · Score: 4, Funny

    It wasn't until 1927 when the first armored car robbery occurred. The Flatheads Gang was responsible for this robbery near Pittsburgh, PA. It was reported that $104,250 was taken in the heist.

    Gangs had such cooler names back on those days.

  21. Re:VisiCalc w/o Apple? by MoThugz · · Score: 4, Informative
    Mods... have a clue, this is not a Mac-centric article...

    The article states "Electronic Spreadsheet", not specifically VisiCalc.

    But since you want to make this a Mac issue... From the article:

    The market for electronic spreadsheet software was growing rapidly in the early 1980s and VisiCalc stakeholders were slow to respond to the introduction of the IBM PC that used an Intel computer chip. Beginning in September 1983, legal conflicts between VisiCorp and Software Arts distracted the VisiCalc developers, Bricklin and Frankston. During this period, Mitch Kapor developed Lotus and his spreadsheet program quickly became the new industry spreadsheet standard.


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    Wow... the Mac was dying since 1980?
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  22. Octopus: Hong Kong smart card - Re:Excuse me, but by bailster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In Hong Kong we use a smart card (stored value card) called the Octopus. I wear a waterproof Octopus watch, which contains the smart chip.

    With the watch/card I can:
    --take a bus or minibus from home to the subway station
    --get coffee and sandwich at starbucks near the subway station
    --ride the subway to the ferry terminal
    --stop at 7-11 and buy a magazine
    --pay for the ferry to one of many smaller islands
    --get a coke from the vending machine at the ferry terminal
    --go to the beach at a smaller island, don't worry about my "money" getting wet -- but no, the seafood restaurants and island bars won't take the card...

    The card is totally anonymous (or so they tell us). Downsides: it has an upper limit of HK$1000, good for cheap stuff but nothing big, has to be refilled in person for cash, and isn't accepted at many places other than the ones just mentioned. The local McDonald's stopped taking them about a year ago. The Octopus was originally developed by the HK subway system (govt owned, now partially privatized) "from Australian technology" and was then extended to some retailers "near" subway facilities. I have a feeling the banks and bank regulators wouldn't let them go any further -- way too threatening.

    The upshot is that, except for the fact that you are required by law to carry your ID, you can basically spend a whole day outside without having to carry a wallet. Now, try to do the same thing in most other countries. Why hasn't anyone rolled this out in the US?

    [By the way, the HK govt is now phasing in smart card ID cards -- haven't heard what they plan to do with the info. Big bro has a new toy!]

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  23. Complete Bull by Raul654 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My Int'l Econ prof talked about this in class. The gold-standard emerged (more or less) out of WWII and was pushed by the US. This is because the US had most of the gold. During the stagflation of the 70's, the value of the dollar dropped, and most of the gold left the US. We were down to like 40% of the WWII era. (Actually, technically, it never moved more than a few dozen feet. More or less every nation in the world except France keeps their gold at Fort Knox, and International trades are done by carting gold from one room to another inside the base)

    Anyway, the gold standard fell apart because it "fixes" the relationship of one current with respect to another, and the gold acts as a kind of balast to compensate for changes in the relationship. But as you can imagine, this is pretty unstable. Floating currencies, which is what 95% of most currencies are today, automatically compensate by changing exchange rates. Geographic discrepencies are arbitraged away. The system works.

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    1. Re:Complete Bull by Raul654 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's put it another way. Consider the dollar and the Yen. Let's say both are backed by gold. Each dollar is backed up by one ounce of gold in the US federal reserve, while each yen is backed up by two ounces provided by the BOJ. You have now fixed the relationship of the dollar to the yen at 2 dollars/yen. So yes, the gold standard does in fact fix relationships. If everyone uses gold, then they all flucauate equally, so changes in the value of gold do not impact trade relationships

      But let's say the japanese economy tanks, and they their buying power is really only 1 dollar/yen. People who have yen will trade them in (at the nominal rate of 2 dollars/yen) to get 2 dollars, and have thus doubled their real buying power. The BOJ then has to start buying yen with dollars (if they have them) or gold in order to equalize the value. But what happens if they run out of both? That was the trouble under the old system.

      That system fell apart, and (even though some new ones were suggested) no replacement was ever implimented. The "chaos" that ensued was basically the best system possible.

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  24. Re:VisiCalc w/o Apple? by thynk · · Score: 3, Funny

    electricity wasnt invented > 1900

    Umm.... Electricity wasn't invented. Period.

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  25. Re:Excuse me, but by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a chip like that on my PSU ID and despite being only about a year old it sporadically decides not to work.

    Stop sporadically sticking it in the slot backwards!

    Seriously, I work with smart cards and I find your statement very hard to believe. Unless the contacts on your chip are really filthy and prevent the reader from getting a good connection, the chip will either work or not. I suppose it's possible that some really stupid software on the chip occasionally goes into a bad state (and then somehow recovers???) but given that a chip essentially "reboots" every time it's inserted in a reader, that would have to be some really bad software.

    On further reflection, one other possibility does occur to me: If the contact plate has partially broken loose from the chip underneath, it could be that it's only making contact intermittently. I've never seen a chip do this, though; usually if you manage to break the leads, they're broken and will *never* make contact.

    In any case, what you're experiencing is very uncommon. I recommend breaking the chip so that it *never* functions and then taking it in and complaining so that they give you a replacement. You can break it pretty easily if you place your thumbnails on the contact plate and crease it sharply. You can also shatter the chip by placing it on a hard surface (concrete works well) and hitting it hard with a hammer.

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  26. Re:Excuse me, but by EvanED · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Penn State started out as an ag school, and still has a very big (at least by ag school standards) program, helped by the fact that it owns an unbelieveable amount of land around central PA. I don't know what I'd classify it as though actually, but if I had to I'd say it's biggest area would be engineering anymore.

  27. ATM History (Thank the Dallas Cowboys) by SoVi3t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    June 27, 1967...Barclay's Bank installs the first "Barclaycash" in England. It could only handle withdrawls, and was intended for use in emergencies when the bank was closed. An American (BJ Meredith) saw it, and was amazed at why it wasn't already in the States. He and his younger brother (Don Meredith, Dallas Cowboys quarterback) put some money together, and founded Docutel, Inc. In November 1971, they installed the world's first fully automated teller machine; a Docutel Total Teller (TT) 300, in the lobby of Atlanta's Citizens & Southern National Bank. Unfortunately customers didn't know what they were, or how to use them. Finally, First National Bank of Atlanta installed one, painted it red, and called it Tillie the All-Time Teller, and spent over half a million dollars advertising it. It made headlines all over the country. By 1977, Docutel was a $31 million company. Unfortunately, competition grew, and Docutel rushed a new model (the TT2000), in September of 1977. The buttons stuck, the machine ate cards like they were candy, and the computer overloaded after several hours of use. Plus it was larger than the previous model, so banks had to knock bigger holes in the walls to replace older models. Docutel's market share plummeted from 80% to 27%. In 1982, they merged with a company named Olivetti, but even that didn't help. In 1986, they threw in the towel. They changed the banking world forever, but never survived long enough to cash in on the world they had created.

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  28. Electronic Cash Registers by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative
    Electronic, as opposed to electrical, cash registers did not appear until cheap microprocessors became available. The older registers were mechanical or electro-mechanical. It was the age of the precision machine. Calculators, cash registers, typewriters and teletypes were mechanical devices with large numbers of parts. National Cash Register was the dominant company in the cash register business.

    I can remember going to the department store with my mother back in that era. The department store used special models of cash registers that were huge and had many more buttons than a normal cash register. They also had a pneumatic tube system to send paperwork from one department to another.

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