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michael
on from the world-outside-KDE dept.
JanneM writes "Gnome 2.4 is arriving early september. Sayamindu Dasgupta has installed the 2.3.5 development release to see what's in store, and has written a very nice overview of the upcoming release."Update: 08/14 16:06 GMT by M: The author has provided a mirror.
GNOME armageddon
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 2, Troll
this is the sixth text revision done on 04-11-2002.
dear reader the gnome armageddon has started,
first of all i want to clarify that this text was meant to be a source
of information otherwise i wouldn't have spent so much time into
writing it. belive me it took me a couple of days writing this text in
a foreign language. even if you don't care at all for gnome, you may
find some interesting information within this text that you like to
read. please try to understand my points even if it's hard sometimes,
otherwise you wake up one day and feel the need to switch to a
different operating system.
on the following lines i'm trying to give you a little insight of the gnome community. the things that are
going on in the back, the information that could be worth talking and
thinking about.
many of us like the gnome desktop and some of us were following it
since the beginning. gnome is a promising project because it's mostly
written in C, easy to use, configurable and therefore fits perfectly
into the philosophy of u*nix. only to name some of its advantages.
unfortunately these advantages changed with the recently new released
version of gnome. the core development team somehow got the idea of
targeting gnome to a complete different direction of users. the so
called corporate desktop user. in other words they're targeting people
that aren't familiar or experienced with desktop environments. usually
business oriented people who are willing to pay money for getting
gnome on their computers.
having this new target in mind, the core development team mostly under
contract by companies like redhat,
ximian and sun decided to simplify the desktop as much
as even possible by removing all its flexibility in favor of an easy
clean simple interface to not confuse their new possible customers. so
far the idea of a clean easy to use desktop is honourable.
some of the new ideas, features and implementations such as gconf, an evil windows
registry like system, new ordering of buttons and dialogs, the removal
of 90%-95% of all visible preferences from the control center and
applications, the new direction that gnome leads and the attitude of the
core development team made a lot of users really unhappy. these are only
a couple of examples and the list can easily be expanded but for now
this is enough. now let me try to get deeper into these aspects.
you may imagine that users got really frustrated
because their beloved gnome desktop matured into something they didn't
want. during the time, the frustration of a not less amount of people
increased. more,
more
and more
emails arrived on the gnome mailinglists where users tried to explain
their concerns, frustrations and the leading target of GNOME.
but the core development team of gnome don't give a damn about what
their users are thinking or wanting and most of the time they come up
with their standard purl. the reply they give is mostly the same. users
should either go and 'file a bug' at bugzilla or the user mails are
being turned so far that at the end they sound like being trolls or the
user feedback is simply not wanted. whatever happens the answers aren't
really satisfying for the user. even constructive
feedback isn't appreciated.
if you gonna think about this for a minute then things gonna harden
that they are directing into the commercial area. the core development
team actually don't care fo
Re:The typing break
by
govtcheez
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· Score: 0, Troll
That's why every 15 minutes or so, I retreat to the bathroom to spray my manchowder all over the walls. The pressure really gets to you.
Nautilus literally has no clue?
by
fnj
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· Score: 1, Troll
I thought I was the only one bothered by this. On my machine, I sometimes have to wait up to 30 seconds after double clicking a shortcut - with no feedback whatsoever that anything is going on! Sheesh!
Maybe we're both missing some configuration item where you can enable an hourglass type feedback (note the question mark in the subject line), but assuming we're not (and I have looked pretty hard)...
<rant> This is an INSANE behavior. It causes me to doubt that the designers take the most elementary fundamentals of GUI design seriously. </rant>
A close second to the annoyance factor of this missing feature is:
Why force us to double click the shortcuts in the first place? Why can't we configure for single click launching? Requiring a double click where there is no necessity to demand it is my pet peeve. Double click technique is difficult to explain, and non-trivial to master, especially for users who are not very dexterous. In Windows and KDE, I can set it up so I don't have to double click.
I would like to be shown the clueless user, by somewhat showing how to fix these nuisances. But even if it is possible to fix them, I must ask why fixing them is not the default.
Re:Any Metacity Fixes/Updates?
by
Arandir
·
· Score: 0, Troll
I smell a conspiracy here. "GNOME is WM agnostic" I hear everyone say, yet why do they keep exanding their WM requirements? What's to stop them from deciding which WM will be the secret official WM, and extending the reqs so only it can meet it at release time?
-- A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Slashdot Mirror
dear reader the gnome armageddon has started,
first of all i want to clarify that this text was meant to be a source of information otherwise i wouldn't have spent so much time into writing it. belive me it took me a couple of days writing this text in a foreign language. even if you don't care at all for gnome, you may find some interesting information within this text that you like to read. please try to understand my points even if it's hard sometimes, otherwise you wake up one day and feel the need to switch to a different operating system.
on the following lines i'm trying to give you a little insight of the gnome community. the things that are going on in the back, the information that could be worth talking and thinking about.
many of us like the gnome desktop and some of us were following it since the beginning. gnome is a promising project because it's mostly written in C, easy to use, configurable and therefore fits perfectly into the philosophy of u*nix. only to name some of its advantages.
unfortunately these advantages changed with the recently new released version of gnome. the core development team somehow got the idea of targeting gnome to a complete different direction of users. the so called corporate desktop user. in other words they're targeting people that aren't familiar or experienced with desktop environments. usually business oriented people who are willing to pay money for getting gnome on their computers.
having this new target in mind, the core development team mostly under contract by companies like redhat, ximian and sun decided to simplify the desktop as much as even possible by removing all its flexibility in favor of an easy clean simple interface to not confuse their new possible customers. so far the idea of a clean easy to use desktop is honourable.
some of the new ideas, features and implementations such as gconf, an evil windows registry like system, new ordering of buttons and dialogs, the removal of 90%-95% of all visible preferences from the control center and applications, the new direction that gnome leads and the attitude of the core development team made a lot of users really unhappy. these are only a couple of examples and the list can easily be expanded but for now this is enough. now let me try to get deeper into these aspects.
you may imagine that users got really frustrated because their beloved gnome desktop matured into something they didn't want. during the time, the frustration of a not less amount of people increased. more, more and more emails arrived on the gnome mailinglists where users tried to explain their concerns, frustrations and the leading target of GNOME.
but the core development team of gnome don't give a damn about what their users are thinking or wanting and most of the time they come up with their standard purl. the reply they give is mostly the same. users should either go and 'file a bug' at bugzilla or the user mails are being turned so far that at the end they sound like being trolls or the user feedback is simply not wanted. whatever happens the answers aren't really satisfying for the user. even constructive feedback isn't appreciated.
if you gonna think about this for a minute then things gonna harden that they are directing into the commercial area. the core development team actually don't care fo
That's why every 15 minutes or so, I retreat to the bathroom to spray my manchowder all over the walls. The pressure really gets to you.
I thought I was the only one bothered by this. On my machine, I sometimes have to wait up to 30 seconds after double clicking a shortcut - with no feedback whatsoever that anything is going on! Sheesh!
...
Maybe we're both missing some configuration item where you can enable an hourglass type feedback (note the question mark in the subject line), but assuming we're not (and I have looked pretty hard)
<rant>
This is an INSANE behavior. It causes me to doubt that the designers take the most elementary fundamentals of GUI design seriously.
</rant>
A close second to the annoyance factor of this missing feature is:
Why force us to double click the shortcuts in the first place? Why can't we configure for single click launching? Requiring a double click where there is no necessity to demand it is my pet peeve. Double click technique is difficult to explain, and non-trivial to master, especially for users who are not very dexterous. In Windows and KDE, I can set it up so I don't have to double click.
I would like to be shown the clueless user, by somewhat showing how to fix these nuisances. But even if it is possible to fix them, I must ask why fixing them is not the default.
I smell a conspiracy here. "GNOME is WM agnostic" I hear everyone say, yet why do they keep exanding their WM requirements? What's to stop them from deciding which WM will be the secret official WM, and extending the reqs so only it can meet it at release time?
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned