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Pulse Detonation Engines: The Future of Aviation

noah_fense writes "Popular Science is running an interesting article about the race to replace the jet turbine with a more efficient source of Mach-breaking airpower: the pulse-detonation engine. It works by detonating (instead of slow burning) fuel hundreds to thousands of times a second. PDE technology is poised to make supersonic passenger flights and space travel affordable. 'Pulse detonation is a hot topic in combustion research,' says Gabriel Roy of the Office of Naval Research. 'Compared with gas turbines, the PDE has a much simpler configuration. It has the capability of going from subsonic to supersonic using less fuel, and it's thermodynamically more efficient. But there are big engineering issues--thermal fatigue, noise. It's very challenging research.'"

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  1. Ellison can't do it, neither can these folks by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In America (the leading consumer of air travel) the FAA has limits on the noise level generated by an airport. From the article, this is such a big problem that the development of this engine in passenger aircraft may be halted because of the inability to dampen the noise output. Strictly speaking, this is going to be a rocket engine, not an passenger jet engine. It probably won't even be a military jet engine either, the military doesn't like their pilots deaf.

    The FAA rules were never a big problem for me, though. The reindeer are fairly silent except for the actual landing part.

    1. Re:Ellison can't do it, neither can these folks by Reverberant · · Score: 5, Interesting
      FAA has limits on the noise level generated by an airport.

      A lot (if not most) of the aviation authorities around the world set noise limits for aviation noise, including the EU and the U.K. What's interesting is that the FAA and various airports have more or less mandated the phase-out of noisier airplanes (Stage 1 & Stage 2 aircraft). If these planes wind up being noisier than the current Stage 3 aircraft, the U.S. air industry is gonna be tied up in lawsuits for a looong time.

      Also, commercial supersonic flights over the continental U.S. are banned partly for noise reasons. Sonic booms are not good things for people and animals over the long term. I would assume that supersonic flights would be restricted to intercontinental travel.

      It probably won't even be a military jet engine either, the military doesn't like their pilots deaf.

      FYI, U.S. military jets tend to be much louder than commercial jets. Military jets are designed for performance, not environmental-friendliness.

  2. Re:I wonder by anethema · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Considering his inventions (AC power, 3 phase power, the transformer, modern radio,electromagnetic motors, fluorescent lighting etc etc etc), I think he was a pretty smart guy. I wouldnt dismiss out of hand the things that he's talked about just because you dont understand how it works.

    Not only that, it is very easy to build a tesla turbine, and pictures exist with witness comments on the one that tesla built getting almost 10hp per pound.

    That, and the tesla turbine only has 1 moving part. The disks spinning inside the housing. Sounds like it makes for a pretty reliable engine to me.

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    It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
  3. Re:Noise - is this really a problem? YOU BET! by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't think you'll *ever* see a PDE in use on a passenger jet -- mainly because of the noise and vibration problem.

    When a PDE fires it doesn't just make a loud noise, it produces a train of supersonic shock waves that transfer vastly more energy than a regular acoustic (sound) wave.

    Standing in reasonable proximity (10 yards or so) of a large (but conventional) pulsejet will give you a really bad headache even if you're wearing hearing protection -- because the amplitude of the acoustic wave generated is so great that it hammers your skull and your body.

    It really surprises a lot of people when I demonstrate a very large pulsejet to them. They say that they feel it right to the core of their body and, despite using grade 5 hearing protection, their ears ring afterwards.

    Now multiply that by an order of magnitude (as is the case with a PDE) and you find that anyone within spitting distance will suffer actual physical harm consisting (at worst) damage to internal organs and (at best) concussion and damage to the inner ear as the shockwaves bash on your skull like a ball-peen hammer.

    I seem to recall the article mentioning that the shockwaves from the demo engine were still causing discomfort after passing through a concrete barrier?

    And, to be quite honest, I have to say that I don't think the engine attached to the Long-EZ and shown running in the video was actually producing true detonations at all.

    Now tell me how many airline passengers will pay good money to ride on a jackhammer, even if it is a supersonic jackhammer.

    I believe the real market for PDEs is unmanned aerial vehicles (including missiles) and as the airbreathing stage of LEO vehicles used for scientific or military purposes.