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Superconductors as Electrical Grid Surge Suppressors

securitas writes "The New York Times published a story about Intermagnetics -- a company that plans to use 'superconductors as valves on the electric-utility power grid, letting their temperature rise to choke off the flow of power,' a day before the largest blackout in North American history. The timing couldn't have been better. On the day of the blackout, Intermagnetics announced a $6 million contract from the Department of Energy to develop and install superconductor 'valve' prototypes by 2006 in the Niagara Mohawk distribution system. Considering that one of the leading theories for the cause of the cascading blackout is a surge in the Niagara Mohawk power grid, this announcement seems incredibly timely."

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  1. Re:Problems by Al-Hala · · Score: 4, Informative

    Given the amount of power flowing through these lines, you cannot use a normal or even semi-normal fuse.

    A fuse works by breaking the conductor path, stopping the current flow. At high currents and voltages, the breakpoint will heat up, ionize, and provide a LOW impedence path, which is difficult to break.

    Some devices that are used to interrupt mains current are switches with contacts immersed in heavy oils, those that use an air blast to disperse the ionized air path, and other more exotic systems.

  2. Re:Would seem to have the potential to make it wor by siliconwafer · · Score: 5, Informative

    How is this a storage device? It's supposed to increase its resistance when a large, sudden change in current takes place. In other words, it sounds like it would dampen an oscillation. I don't see how it could "inject" current into the grid.

  3. Yahoo news by DRWHOISME · · Score: 5, Informative

    says the cause of the blackouts were 3 OHIO transmission lines.

  4. Re:This is a good start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dude, that 102.4% only means that the plant operated more efficiently than normal. The amount of power generated by the core did NOT exceed 100%. However, the generator output exceed the maximum dependaple capability (MDC) as a result of higher conversion efficiency. The MDC is a lower bound on what the plant -as a whole- can reliably deliver to the grid. All it takes to achieve better efficiency is lower than "normal" temperature of circ water to the condenser. This can simply be caused by weather conditions. I've seen nuclear plants whose output could vary by more than 100 MWe over the course of a year, solely due to seasonal changes in ambient temperatures. Lower temperature of heat sink = higher thermal efficiency = higher capacity factor.

  5. Just a tutorial by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Informative

    for all of us who failed electronics/electrical engineering: blackouts for dummys

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  6. Hmm... Black Out... by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Informative

    Greg Pallast has some Interesting Comments on the blackout. He cites energy deregulation, passed by George Bush, Sr. under lobbying pressure from Enron (Yes, them again!) Very intersting comments, if true. Politicians and Corporations teaming up to line their own pockets while endangering the public. Nice.

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  7. World Wide Electric Grid by 2030 by cyberguyd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Source: Wired Mag September 2003 - paper copy

    Talk about timely articles. The day of the blackout the September issue of Wired was in my mailbox. In this months infop0rn, it describes a plan that Buckminster Fuller dreamed up 30 years ago to connect the world on the same grid. "Electric companies dismissed the notion as pie in the sky - and then proceeded to build such a grid." The article states that all the contries in the Western Hemisphere will be interconnected within the next ten years. About half the countries in the world are interconnected in some way already. Those that aren't connected or can't be is because of a geographical, industrial infrastructure, or politcal nature, ie Cuba, a few contries in Africa like Ethiopia and Sudan and Polynesia, Austrailia, and New Zealand.

    The article says that this should smooth out market spikes when demand is high in one region it is almost certainly to be low in another. The US uses about 3.8E+18 kilowatt hours a year with about 71% of the energy used produced from fossil fuels. The US is also the largets importer of electricity, most likely the majority from Canada which produces about 58% from hydropower. France is the leading producer of electricity from nuclear, about 75%, and Brazil from hydro, about 86%.

  8. "Quenching" a superconductor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once upon a time, it was discovered that if you cool certain materials below a critical temperature, they lose all resistivity, i.e. superconducting magnets are only superconducting below a certain temperature. Once their temperature exceeds that critical temperature, "quenching" occurs. The resistance suddenly becomes "normal," i.e. dramtically increasing. This can be catastrophic, the temperature and resistance suddenly becoming directly related and both increasing at accelerated rates. All that energy in the magnetic field suddenly becomes heat.

    When I was an undergraduate at Rice University, I got to use the NMR machine in the chemistry department. Essentially, it's a large superconducting magnet that is used to investigate the structure of chemical samples with radio waves.

    The superconductor is contained in a large steel thermos. The inner layers are cooled by liquid helium (4 K), outer layers by liquid nitorgen (78 K). Superconductors are used because a large amount of current can be used, producing a larger magnetic flux, etc. The more powerful the magnet, the easier the determination of structure.

    Every few days the liquid helium and liquid nitrogen would have to be added to maintain the temperature control.

    I was warned that if the magnetic every quenched, it would sound like a freight train. Remaining liquid nitogen or helium would boil and the magnet itself would probably melt. One moment it's a multi-million dollar instrument, the next it's a steam whistle with a heart of worthless slag.

    I was told that if this happened on my watch, I should run to my car, drive to Mexico, and hope the my professor's hitmen never found me.

    Magnets are transported to the location of installation before being cooled and and superconducting is initiated. Once installed, they are precarious to relocate. Major concerns:

    1) slight bumps can disrupt internal structures causing annoying variations in the magnetic field- don't be the chemist who brings a wrench in the room and gets it permanently attached to the side of the container
    2) loss of temperature control - the quenching phenomenon.
    3) a very high-powered magnetic field- you can exactly push down the hallway without causing damage to nearby objects or its own the magetic field

    If this quenching was used to control current, it would have to be carefully controlled to avoid catastrophic damage to the superconductor itself. This seems a nontrivial engineering problem.

  9. Re:Fancy gadgets will help? by mkweise · · Score: 4, Informative

    They were supposed to have protection systems to prevent a cascade failure like this. Making the protection systems fancier isn't going to help too much if they don't install/maintain them properly.

    Actually, the primary purpose of the protection systems in place is to prevent grid trouble from physically destroying generators, transformers, transmission lines and other infrastructure hardware. And they worked, otherwise it would have taken weeks rather than hours to get the grid up again. IIRC, in the blackout of 1965>, major infrastructure damage resulted from a grid collapse and it was from this experince that many of the currently implemeted ideas were learned.

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  10. Re:Intermagnetics hype by deglr6328 · · Score: 3, Informative

    uhh hello? I dont know why this is modded to +4 since it's just plain wrong. If you'd actually read the article you linked to and the NYT article you would've known that they're now using BSCCO high temperature superconductors which have critical temperatures well above the boiling point of liquid N2(over 100K).

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