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Broken FreeBSD Ports Scheduled for Removal

Dan writes "FreeBSD's Kris Kennaway says that the following FreeBSD ports are scheduled for removal on November 7 if they are still broken at that time and no PRs have been submitted to fix them. If you are interested in saving these ports, please send your patches to the maintainer. If the maintainer is unresponsive or the port has no maintainer, then please submit them via send-pr."

45 comments

  1. Firebird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I noticed that they are removing Firebird ! Shouldn't they give the mozilla team a bit more time to stabilize it ? It just came out.

    1. Re:Firebird by Sevn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, it's Firebird the database that is so insignificant it's been broken in ports forever and nobody noticed. Not Firebird the most kickass and bestest browser ever and stuff.

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    2. Re:Firebird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I tried firebird, and it appeared to be much slower than mozilla, both when loading the executable and when opening drop-down menus. And less stable as well. I might try it again when they approach a 1.0 release. As for galeon, I prefer the galeon interface to mozilla 1.4, but the build is a bitch and I hate all those gnome dependencies in 2.0. Here's to dillo 1.0.

    3. Re:Firebird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I noticed that they are removing Firebird ! Shouldn't they give the mozilla team a bit more time to stabilize it ? It just came out. [ Reply to This ]

  2. java by Tirel · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why are they removing Java???

    1. Re:java by forsetti · · Score: 1

      Where do you see that?

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  3. Phew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    databases/firebird firebird-1.0.2 chris@aims.com.au
    databases/firebird-devel firebird-1.0.r2 chris@aims.com.au
    Close call, Firebird the database *not* the browser. Seems reasonable, who uses Firebird when we've got MySQL?
    1. Re:Phew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw that, I thought that was so funny, considering just HOW MUCH BITCHING the database firebird assholes made when Mozilla renamed itself to firebird. And here it turns out they aren't even maintaining their OWN software! SCO anyone?

    2. Re:Phew! by dolmant_php · · Score: 1

      Those who choose to use Firebird due to [whatever reason].

    3. Re:Phew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems reasonable, who uses Firebird when we've got MySQL?

      And when you grow up, you can use a real database like PostgreSQL.

  4. Will portupgrade ... by forsetti · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... remove the port if I have it installed, since my post Nov 7 cvsup will remove the port from my ports directory?

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    1. Re:Will portupgrade ... by Piquan · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. If you've already installed the port, then this change will not delete the installed copy. (It will still be deleted from your ports directory.) However, you may want to fix the port so it stays in the tree, if the port is important to you. Some of the so-called "broken" ports work fine, and some only need minor tweaking.

  5. Now I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its not *BSD that is dying, but rather, just some of the ports that are dying. Whew, I was afraid for a while there I might have to move to a different OS.

    1. Re:Now I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where there's a will, there's a way. Too many users like FreeBSD too much to let popular ports languish.

  6. Good. by craig2787 · · Score: 1

    At some point, you just have to cut the fat. If these ports have been broken for so long and no one has made an effort, then their disappearance should be transparent. In fact, I would like to see this logic applied to the entire PR system. Old PR's should be closed and archived as "known issues."

    1. Re:Good. by zangdesign · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now, if someone could just convice SourceForge to do the same.

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    2. Re:Good. by devphil · · Score: 1
      At some point, you just have to cut the fat.

      Exactly. Gardeners call it pruning. It's a sign of healthy, normal growth.

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    3. Re:Good. by Piquan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I disagree, at least in part. I saw some software in there that I had manually installed and didn't realize was in ports. I saw some stuff that I use but rarely update.

      Also, just because a port is marked as broken doesn't mean no one has made an effort. There may be outstanding dialog with the developers or maintainers, and it hasn't produced a fix yet.

    4. Re:Good. by zangdesign · · Score: 1

      Well, this way they have a deadline to sort things out. It's not like a given project can't go back in again, it's just what's currently deadweight being removed now.

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    5. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at it this way, *BSD is dead .

    6. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't funny, it's insightful! A SourceForge clean-up is DESPERATELY needed. Move it into sections:

      1) No code and abandoned
      2) Broken code and abandoned
      3) Out of date and abandoned

      Have all three of those section automatically switched OFF when doing searches, so that we don't end up with so much crap. You'd think with all the problems SF have had with their search engine, trimming the fat would be the ideal way to speed things up a bit again.

    7. Re:Good. by meshko · · Score: 1

      yes, yes, yes
      Where do I sign the petition?

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  7. Automated Ports testing, and Fink/Gentoo/Darwrin.. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Informative

    With the work going on with Freebsd/Gentoo/Fink/Darwin to work on a combined port system, I'm wondering if there is a automated ports checker to verify which ports compile out of the box? Seems there is alot of work that needs to be done to weed out the broken ports, and report ports with compile errors.

    Also, a while back there was an OpenBSD announcement that the ports collection for both Open and Free had almost 20% ports that where broken. This small list is what, 3%? (guess)

    Nice to see them to work on cleaning some ports, but is there a grand plan?

  8. Fix 'em if you want! by Piquan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If a port is important to you, then fix it! Many of these ports only require trivial changes. So far today, I've submitted fixes for two of the ports that I want to live: games/xpuyo and emulators/its. Both only required simple changes.

  9. Re:Automated Ports testing, and Fink/Gentoo/Darwri by Piquan · · Score: 4, Informative

    It sounds like you're describing bento, which Kris linked to in his email. If you ever wonder how a port build fails, or what it logs when it works, check bento!

  10. Re: problems installing 4.6 from iso image by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    have you tried 4.8? how does that work? Have you tried NOT installing the ports at first and putting them in later?

  11. Spoiler by cerskine · · Score: 0, Funny

    *BSD dies at the end of Matrix Revolutions

  12. Missing a Port.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, I think they left lang/perl off by
    mistake. :)

  13. Re:Automated Ports testing, and Fink/Gentoo/Darwri by lewiz · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm wondering if there is a automated ports checker to verify which ports compile out of the box?

    I can't answer this fully but I know that Kris Kennaway posts ``INDEX build failed'' messages to the freebsd-ports mailing list quite frequently. From what I understand he goes to /usr/ports and does a ``make index''. The ports that this fails on are most likely those listed. So, it's not automated but pretty good just the same.

  14. Someone please fix the only BSD DC++ client, dcgui by Istealmymusic · · Score: 1
    /usr/ports/net/dcgui - this port is forbidden because of a security hole. Its really old (0.1.1 beta IIRC). 0.2.9 is out. I tried installing it manually but it failed miserably; it won't be trivial getting it to work.

    Please, an experienced coder needs to fix dcgui, for the sake of the RIAA.

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  15. "9000 ports" an inflated figure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The news of freebsd hitting 9000 ports hasn't gone old when they already admit that the figure was inflated by including defunct software? :-)

  16. Re:Someone please fix the only BSD DC++ client, dc by ickoonite · · Score: 1

    0.2.9 is out?
    I've been running 0.2.16 for a few months!

    iqu :)

  17. what about epsxe by Aeonsfx · · Score: 1
    Ok, I realize that epsxe is not technically "broken," as it does install, but on my two 5.1-RELEASE systems it segfaults upon execution. (or at least it doesn't display anything and the process is not there on top) I notified the maintainer about this issue about 2 weeks ago, and he has not yet responded. Well, it *is* a closed-source program as far as I can tell, so it is probably a difficult port if it has any linuxisms in its design.


    Anyway, maybe it works under 4.7, or 4.8, (though I wouldn't know...) but it doesn't work for me on 5.1 :(. If anyone wants an "easy" psx emu port, go for pcsx! I hacked at it a bit and it looks like it could be made compatable without too much fuss. (though it doesn't respect the linuxulator's .so files, for some reason) I was able to at least get it to display a gtk2 gui via linuxulator, but I haven't been able to get it to recognize psemu plugin ports yet... any ideas?


    -Tim

  18. ..speaking of broken ports by Aeonsfx · · Score: 1
    Is anyone ever going to fix scwm? Isn't it possible to concurrently install two versions of guile?

    -Tim